UK Australia Trade Deal

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

There was a spat over European Rights Laws being written into the CETA deal with Canada. The EU are championing human rights and democracy clauses being written into trade deals.
To be fair, that's maybe no bad thing when dealing with countries like China and Russia.

In Canada, they have Indeterminate prison sentences for very serious offences, basically they throw away the key.
In Australia, they have the Dangerous Prisoners (sexual offenders) Act 2003, when a dangerous sexual offender has served his sentence, he's not necessarily released.
Both of these fall foul of European Human Rights laws.

So where did you read that?

 

[fillyboy]

So where did you read that?

Guide on the case-law - Prisoners’ rights (coe.int)

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

There was a spat over European Rights Laws being written into the CETA deal with Canada. The EU are championing human rights and democracy clauses being written into trade deals.
To be fair, that's maybe no bad thing when dealing with countries like China and Russia.

In Canada, they have Indeterminate prison sentences for very serious offences, basically they throw away the key.
In Australia, they have the Dangerous Prisoners (sexual offenders) Act 2003, when a dangerous sexual offender has served his sentence, he's not necessarily released.
Both of these fall foul of European Human Rights laws.

So where did you read that?

The bit highlighted in red and bold?
Not forgetting that the ECHR is separate from EU

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

There was a spat over European Rights Laws being written into the CETA deal with Canada.

So where did you read that?

I think we can safely assume that that was something fillyboy made up.

 

[Vinty]

EU is about to collapse, so no need to worry about the EU using trade as bargaining tool to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries.

https://unherd.com/2021/06/brexit-was-just-the-start/

 

[JohnD]

EU is about to collapse

Poor vinty lives in a parallel universe where his dreams and fantasies come true.

 

[Vinty]

Poor vinty lives in a parallel universe where his dreams and fantasies come true.

Its gonna happen sooner rather than later.
I think that N. I. will be the catalyst for that collapse.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Youll be a citizen of the RoI before that happens

 

[SirGalahad]

Nobody's seen the small print

That's the point. Bojo never reads it. Then he wants to change it after signing it.

Look at Brexit - we got sold a pup.

 

[SirGalahad]

Its gonna happen sooner rather than later.
I think that N. I. will be the catalyst for that collapse.

You want to put a date on that?

What happens first? NI becoming part of Ireland (Brit voters think its a price worth paying) or the EU crumbles.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Look at Brexit - we got sold a pup.

Its not as if that wasnt blindingly obvious at the time to anybody who cared to open their eyes and minds.

 

[SirGalahad]

Only Tories can get away with saying "Look we got a deal, when no one said we could. We got a crap deal and it's the EU fault"

The cognitive dissonance amongst Tory voters is why they keep winning.

 

[Notch7]

EU is about to collapse, so no need to worry about the EU using trade as bargaining tool to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries.

https://unherd.com/2021/06/brexit-was-just-the-start/

Unherd is funded by Sur Paul Marshall, a hedge fund manager and pro Brexit campaigner.

 

[Notch7]

Look at Brexit - we got sold a pup

If you buy a car from a dodgy car dealer, don't be surprised when it breaks down on the way home.

 

[fillyboy]

You want to put a date on that?

What happens first? NI becoming part of Ireland (Brit voters think its a price worth paying) or the EU crumbles.

ROI in recent years started contributing for the first time after 27 years membership.
ROI are going to receive a smaller proportion of EU covid aid than other EU countries.
ROI are losing a huge share of their fishing quotas because of brexit.
ROI are facing a hard border problem/being thrown to the wolves by the EU.
UK import 250,000 tons of beef per year, the majority of that comes from ROI, UK have just signed a trade deal with Australia, their beef is cheaper.
Half of ROI's GDP is based on ultra low corporation tax, both the US and the EU have said that will end.

Quite frankly the ROI are *****d, Mrs Varadkar can bleat till she's blue in the face about how the only option to save NI is re-unification, it's not NI that need saving, it's the ROI.
Their only credible option is to leave the EU, which, mark my words, they will.