Kitchen fitting with out of plumb walls

[Mjr50p]

Hi

I’m after some advice please.

we are having a kitchen fitted, all bespoke. While you can see to the right of the old wall the units are level to the wall the left are not.

the difficulty being the units are level so obviously the wall isn’t. Is this something we just need to put up with or can it be made to look better?

many thanks
M and S

 

[Mjr50p]

Picture attached

 

[foxhole]

You would plan the kitchen so no unit meets tight to a wall and infill panel is used to meet uneven walls.
Though it’s hard to believe the unit on the left is vertical have you checked with spirit level?

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Walls are rarely truly plumb, floors are rarely truly level, but something there is very wrong. I'd check the left hand unit front to back and side to side as well as checking the carcass for being plumb, with a 2ft/600mm spirit level, to see what is going on. Whatever is wrong the tops of the cabinets must be absolutely le el to ensure that your courgettes don't roll away or a spill doesn't run into your lap

 

[Mjr50p]

Thanks both, agreed neither are truly level, how would he go about making the gap uniform along the edge without compromising something further down the line?

For example, the top right angle is 90deg dead on, if the cabinet is shifted to be in line with the wall how can the top be level?

 

[Mr Chibs]

Picture attached

More worrying is the loo roll in your kitchen think you may have taken open plan too far.

Could you not put a tapered filler piece to fill the gap, attached to the carcass before you screw it to the wall?

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Have I misunderstood the meaning of "bespoke", as in "we are having a kitchen fitted, all bespoke"?

You would plan the kitchen so no unit meets tight to a wall and infill panel is used to meet uneven walls.

Surely planning it that way is the responsibility of the people designing, building, and installing the bespoke kitchen.

Though it’s hard to believe the unit on the left is vertical have you checked with spirit level?

Surely the people who are installing the bespoke kitchen they designed and built should have a spirit level?

Thanks both, agreed neither are truly level, how would he go about making the gap uniform along the edge without compromising something further down the line?

For example, the top right angle is 90deg dead on, if the cabinet is shifted to be in line with the wall how can the top be level?

And surely they should be skilled at installing the kitchens they design and build into the real world of wonky walls, floors, and ceilings?

 

[foxhole]

Have I misunderstood the meaning of "bespoke", as in "we are having a kitchen fitted, all bespoke"?


Surely planning it that way is the responsibility of the people designing, building, and installing the bespoke kitchen.



Surely the people who are installing the bespoke kitchen they designed and built should have a spirit level?



And surely they should be skilled at installing the kitchens they design and build into the real world of wonky walls, floors, and ceilings?

Surely your post should have some point to it ?

 

[Mjr50p]

Spirit level is showing it's all over the place, the wall is actually pretty good. most of the discrepancy is in the overall top length and bottom length being 6mm different (Shorter on bottom) which looks like is the main issue.

Either way as a bespoke build should I be expecting fillers to be used at all? It would look a lot better with the cabinets both sides of the wall to be flush against it I'd have thought.

 

[Mr Chibs]

Sadly whoever did the boarding wasn't doing bespoke that day. As you now have a wonky wall, you'll have to make the best of bad situation.

You could re-skim from floor to worktop height again, but straight this time, but it's one hell of a faff.
Think a filler will be as good as it gets.
Once they are scribed a cut they will look good, you won't notice them when the kitchen is fitted.

 

[Mjr50p]

Sadly whoever did the boarding wasn't doing bespoke that day. As you now have a wonky wall, you'll have to make the best of bad situation.

You could re-skim from floor to worktop height again, but straight this time, but it's one hell of a faff.
Think a filler will be as good as it gets.
Once they are scribed a cut they will look good, you won't notice them when the kitchen is fitted.

The wall is actually pretty good, it's the frame that's out. Looks like a fun conversation to be had...

 

[Captain Nemesis]

Surely your post should have some point to it ?

Surely the point is that the OP should not have to ask a DIY site to give advice to his kitchen fitters?

Surely the point is:

Is this something we just need to put up with or can it be made to look better?

No it isnt and yes it can.

Surely the point is:

Thanks both, agreed neither are truly level,

Unacceptable - you did not pay for them to install crooked cupboards and sloping worktops.

Surely the point is:

how would he go about making the gap uniform along the edge without compromising something further down the line?

For example, the top right angle is 90deg dead on, if the cabinet is shifted to be in line with the wall how can the top be level?

He is a professional kitchen fitter, installing a kitchen made to measure for your kitchen.

The techniques and methods used by him to make sure the cupboards are true and the worktops are level and there are no gaps as per the photograph are part of the expertise you are paying for, so make him exercise it.

 

[Mjr50p]

Surely the point is that the OP should not have to ask a DIY site to give advice to his kitchen fitters?

Surely the point is:

No it isnt and yes it can.

Surely the point is:

Unacceptable - you did not pay for them to install crooked cupboards and sloping worktops.

Surely the point is:

He is a professional kitchen fitter, installing a kitchen made to measure for your kitchen.

The techniques and methods used by him to make sure the cupboards are true and the worktops are level and there are no gaps as per the photograph are part of the expertise you are paying for, so make him exercise it.

A good bit of straight talking, cheers.

 

[foxhole]

Surely the point is that the OP should not have to ask a DIY site to give advice to his kitchen fitters?

Surely the point is:

No it isnt and yes it can.

Surely the point is:

Unacceptable - you did not pay for them to install crooked cupboards and sloping worktops.

Surely the point is:

He is a professional kitchen fitter, installing a kitchen made to measure for your kitchen.

The techniques and methods used by him to make sure the cupboards are true and the worktops are level and there are no gaps as per the photograph are part of the expertise you are paying for, so make him exercise it.

Can’t see any mention of a professional kitchen fitter or any evidence of one in the photo.You make a lot of assumptions.

 

[Mjr50p]

Can’t see any mention of a professional kitchen fitter or any evidence of one in the photo.You make a lot of assumptions.

unfortunately he has been employed as a professional. Made it and is fitting it. I’m
Sure it will be resolved.