Edward Colston statue: Four cleared of criminal damage

[AngleEyes]

yes that is why I specifically mentioned black - for instance the Chinese community are half as numerous as the black population, but you rarely see people of Chinese heritage on tv, sport, media, arts, advertising. Surely if society is going to be fair to all ethnicities then broadly speaking we should see similar demographics to the general population. We don't, everything seems heavily biased towards one ethnicity

Are you promoting positive discrimination?

 

[JohnD]

everything seems heavily biased towards one ethnicity

Yes, Whites.

 

[fillyboy]

My point is that UK started bombing German civilians.
And UK bombs killed about 10 times more civilians.
But as usual you concentrate on the facts that suit your narrative.

No. My point is that I have a healthy dislike for Germans, not because of their over priced cars, their overrated engineering ability or their fraudulent use of a pretend currency to artificially make their exports affordable, but quite simply because the bastards bombed my mums house.

I think I'm entitled to bear a bit of a grudge, bombing my mums house for God's sake.

You claim I'm not entitled to bear a grudge because the bombing of civilians was perfectly legal at the time.

Well slavery was also perfectly legal hundreds of years ago so why doesn't your same rule apply to black people or virtue signallers like yourself?

 

[AngleEyes]

Them Egyptians were into slavery

and thousands of people pay and turn up to look at the mummified bodies and relics commemorating
These people

They aren't commemorated for slavery. Nor was racism invented to justify slavery, nor was that racism perpetuated to today's society for no other reason than pure racism as a leftover outdated attitude.

 

[AngleEyes]

No. My point is that I have a healthy dislike for Germans, not because of their over priced cars, their overrated engineering ability or their fraudulent use of a pretend currency to artificially make their exports affordable, but quite simply because the bastards bombed my mums house.

I think I'm entitled to bear a bit of a grudge, bombing my mums house for God's sake.

You claim I'm not entitled to bear a grudge because the bombing of civilians was perfectly legal at the time.

Well slavery was also perfectly legal hundreds of years ago so why doesn't your same rule apply to black people or virtue signallers like yourself?

I didn't say you weren't entitled to your opinion. I tried to point out that your hatred of Germans was based on the false premise of Germany being uncivilised for bombing civilians. They retaliated to UK's bombing of civilians.

I'm not condoning the bombing of civilians. It was barbaric then, it remains barbaric.

 

[fillyboy]

They aren't commemorated for slavery.

Nor was Colson, he was commemorated for building schools and libraries and various other philanthropic deeds.

 

[AngleEyes]

Nor was Colson, he was commemorated for building schools and libraries and various other philanthropic deeds.

It's not philanthropic to capture other human beings, including women and children, and transport them in horrific conditions, many thousands of them dying in the process, to use and abuse them in the pursuit of profit.
It's not excusable by building a false narrative that they are inferior beings, a narrative that is perpetuated by some, to this day.
If you think that's philanthropy, I suggest you consult a dictionary.

 

[noseall]

Germany for example, if you haven't noticed we have all forgiven and moved on

Except filly and many other gammon German haters with faux patriotic rage...

the bastards bombed my mums house. Or should I simply forget that

 

[fillyboy]

It's not philanthropic to capture other human beings, including women and children, and transport them in horrific conditions, many thousands of them dying in the process, to use and abuse them in the pursuit of profit.
It's not excusable by building a false narrative that they are inferior beings, a narrative that is perpetuated by some, to this day.
If you think that's philanthropy, I suggest you consult a dictionary.

Nobody is suggesting that, nobody is saying slaves were inferior beings, and other than you, nobody is suggesting that Colston was commemorated for those reasons.
I'm simply illustrating that whilst you gleefully point out that the Germans bombing my mums house was perfectly legal, I suggest you use the same logic with your slavery rantings.

You really have been hoisted by your own petard.

 

[Notch7]

the thread title is wrong

they were cleared of damage

it cant be criminal as the jury decided it wasnt

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

if sides were chosen equally from society then there would be one black player in every three teams. I don't know, may be black people read the news better, act better, advertise better, make better footballers and sports people.

In some spheres they simply are better than whites and absolutely no objections from me where that is genuinely true. I don't think they advertise better, maybe about the same as whites - so I see the current PC on the adverts as discrimination against whites. It seems they portray every almost every couple as a mixed couple and every family as a mixed, which is simply far from truth. It has even spread now to the program material, if they inverview members of the public, the priority seems to be one of find a coloured member of the public to interview. I personally do not know any at all, watching UK TV they make it appear as if it is the norm.. It is far from the norm.

But that thought would be racist as we are all entirely equal at everything.

PC has definitely progressed into negative discrimination.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Blimey I recall when they toppled that statue of saddam

it was live on the telly plod just stood around and watched

even assisted in the caper

They used a US tank to pull it down, likely driven by US troops.

 

[AngleEyes]

Nobody is suggesting that, nobody is saying slaves were inferior beings, and other than you, nobody is suggesting that Colston was commemorated for those reasons.

That was and continues to be the basis for racism.
The argument has always been that Colston's slavery participation should be recognised alongside of his generously giving of his ill-gotten gains.

Bombing of civilians was strictly legal at the time. That doesn't make it acceptable.
Homosexuality was illegal not so long ago, and many were criminalised for it. That doesn't make the law acceptable

I'm simply illustrating that whilst you gleefully point out that the Germans bombing my mums house was perfectly legal, I suggest you use the same logic with your slavery rantings.

You interpret my corrections of you depicting solely Germans as uncivilised for bombing civilian areas, when in reality, the UK were at least equally as uncivilised, as me being gleeful?
What a weird idea of gleeful you have!

I take no pleasure in your mistakes. I take no pleasure in correcting your mistakes. I take no pleasure in pointing out your bigotry is based on false premises.

My argument is, and always has been that bombing of civilians is barbaric, uncivilised and unacceptable, and so is slavery.
If you are under the misapprehension that my argument has ben any different, that is your mistake, not mine.

 

[^woody^]

it cant be criminal as the jury decided it wasnt

Just like OJ and MJ

 

[noseall]

I suggest you use the same logic with your slavery rantings.

The same logic you say - like concerned crowds removing all the statues of Adolph in Germany? Silly me, there aren't any.