Someone is trying to start a war in the Ukraine, It's NOT Russia (edit: yes it is)

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Notch7 said:
the Russians already have Donbas and Crimea, they didnt need to invade Ukraine for that
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Crimea yes. All of Dombass - I don't think so. An interesting interview with a Ukrainian politician. A more junior one. She pointed out that they were ready now unlike when Minsk came about. Make of that what ever you like,

Interesting - few mins ago. Hungary doesn't seem to be too happy with he free movement of people in the EU. Appears to relate to the Ukraine being in so doesn't entirely support the EU view. They have their own laws. Earlier. Poland is well know in terms of refugees other than in this case. Seems their extreme right acted up very recently.

A Ukrainian is claiming there is footage kicking about from 2014 and mentioning how everything is carefully checked.
 
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Any fool knnows thet Putin had all of the Crimea - that was a wlak in as I have posted many times as over 80% supportrf Russia
Donbas any fool knows they had about half

Less talked about and I have posted here is how they banned the Russian language in schools and some or poss all public buildings.

Dont take my word for it, Google it I'm sure some of the west press has posted it

There was something re their relgion as well but not sure what

Posted before, look at NI - same colour skin, same languages, same type of food, live in same streets for the majority - you know the rest. Ask
any IRA supporter they will have their angle, some facts and some lies. Ask the other side, some facts and some les

In times of conflict - the facts are battered even before the conflict starts and many easily led just belie the one side but this may be due to as well they have no other source of info. The sad thing is, the brainless that info at hand but decide to beleive one side only

The Truss woman is a liaibility as is Boris

There is no need to make public speech one afte rthe other. Just talk behind the scenes and come out with something to stop this war and never let it happen again

Do you trust our government? You recall partgygate, WMD, Windrush, false promise by all govs that they know are lies as they know it will never happen
 
Notch7 said:
you said "read and listen to"

so that means you read and listen to RT and Tass
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STOP IT!!!

Me saying llisten to and read does not equate to "TRUTHFUL" you uneducated poster.
Stop lying about me and misquoting me!! Where did I say any of them were "TRUTHFUL"???? You can't as I never said that you clown.
You keep on moving the goalpost I sincerely feel sorry for your desperate stane, yes reall!!
 
Notch7 said:
*Russian propaganda*
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Is it, why, where is the evidence, why did the people in Donbas fall out???

I'm calling you out as I'v had enough of your war mongering lies why else you post lies about facts???

I reiterate, Ukriane banned in schools the Russian language was one of the the several items that made people fall out.

Again look at NI - they died over religion or just becuse you live in england got blown up
 
The Humanitarian said:
Less talked about and I have posted here is how they banned the Russian language in schools and some or poss all public buildings.
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The Humanitarian said:
The Truss woman is a liaibility as is Boris
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The Humanitarian said:
Do you trust our government? You recall partgygate, WMD, Windrush, false promise by all govs that they know are lies as they know it will never happen
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Deflection tactics, it was poor Vladimir who did the invading comrade.
 
The Humanitarian said:
Is it, why, where is the evidence, why did the people in Donbas fall out???

I'm calling you out as I'v had enough of your war mongering lies why else you post lies about facts???

I reiterate, Ukriane banned in schools the Russian language was one of the the several items that made people fall out.

Again look at NI - they died over religion or just becuse you live in england got blown up
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Notch7

Are you going to back up your baseless assertions that it was "propaganda"???

I thought not as you have a history of that.
 
Reports everywhere now of Russian columns being devastated and troops abandoning their tanks and vehicles and basically running away. One report said several thousand are 'wandering around the countryside'. Video of ones captured show just young scared kids. Another reckoned the captured Russians said they had no food, no fuel, no communication with their seniors, did not know where they were supposed to go or what they were supposed to do? They seemed to have no idea they were going to war. It sounds like a right shambles. It was widely reported that most front line were untrained conscripts - canon fodder - and presumably there will be better trained (and better brainwashed) troops to come so things might not be so easy going forward. Either way I can't see this continuing though. It was similar in Chechnya and the next move - and the next obvious move here - was to withdraw and resort to long range shelling and bombing.
 
The problem is filtering the BS... There are so many "Russian helecopter hit by UA" stories and all you can see is the helicopter firing rockets or releasing automatic defensive chaff Flares.

The one fact on this thread - the Title is complete bollx. Russia did start this war. They seem to think they have a right to install whoever they like in the former USSR neighbours under threat of annihilation if you don't comply.
 
The Humanitarian said:
STOP IT!!!

Me saying llisten to and read does not equate to "TRUTHFUL" you uneducated poster.
Stop lying about me and misquoting me!! Where did I say any of them were "TRUTHFUL"???? You can't as I never said that you clown.
You keep on moving the goalpost I sincerely feel sorry for your desperate stane, yes reall!!
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Thank you for admitting you believe what you read and listen to from RT.
 
Interesting Video on why someone thinks Russia invaded.
About 30 Mins. Territory/Borders to NATO and Oil/Gas Reserves in Ukraine threatening Russia's income.

@The Humanitarian

I can see you are trying to make some good points.
The over use of the Word 'Fact' and your Signature don't really help your cause.
Inside scoop. Really?

Quite entertaining to read though :)
 
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