Does Nato have

[gas112]

How does it "prove" that?

eh how long has it took russia to deal with them and do you think the west wants to give billions to these countries just for the fun of it .
If it wasnt strategic and they just wanted to give away billions then they would be giving the billions to impoverished countries in africa etc to give people a better life

 

[denso13]

eh how long has it took russia to deal with them and do you think the west wants to give billions to these countries just for the fun of it .
If it wasnt strategic and they just wanted to give away billions then they would be giving the billions to impoverished countries in africa etc to give people a better life

I know that's what you think but it's far from "proof".

 

[gas112]

I know that's what you think but it's far from "proof".

so explain why the west want all the countries on russias borders to align with them . You obviously struggle with the basics of warfare

 

[denso13]

You obviously struggle with the basics of warfare

You obviously struggle with the difference between opinion and proof.

 

[gas112]

You obviously struggle with the difference between opinion and proof.

suggest you read up on buffer zones and their purpose

 

[The Samaritan]

The blokes a troll just going around posting baseless comments one after the other whenever anyone posts something that he disagrees with.

I cited that to reach a ceasefire there would have to compromise ie putin will never give up Donbas/Crimea they already held before the attacks the abuse I got from certain usernames was disgusting.

 

[denso13]

suggest you read up on buffer zones and their purpose

No, I won't trying to prove your claim for you. That's not how it works.

 

[denso13]

I cited that to reach a ceasefire there would have to compromise ie putin will never give up Donbas/Crimea they already held before the attacks the abuse I got from certain usernames was disgusting.

Why should we believe anyone who claimed they were in Brazil earlier and now they are based in the Congo. You lie....

 

[The Samaritan]

Why should we believe anyone who claimed they were in Brazil earlier and now they are based in the Congo. You lie....

Andy11 does not beleive you one bit why should anyone else as Andy has been here for years

 

[denso13]

Andy11 does not beleive you one bit why should anyone else as Andy has been here for years

Deflection. You are a proven liar.

 

[transam]

The blokes a troll just going around posting baseless comments one after the other whenever anyone posts something that he disagrees with.

I cited that to reach a ceasefire there would have to compromise ie putin will never give up Donbas/Crimea they already held before the attacks the abuse I got from certain usernames was disgusting.

porkie pies

Crimea is a lost cause and always was

 

[Vinty]

Nato has not installed nukes in Ukraine.

Maybe Russia should stop breaking agreements to respect and secure its neighbours borders.

When did America or NATO ever respect other countries borders.

 

[Vinty]

Complete bulls hit
The parents fled Libya back in the 90s after becoming opponents of Colonel Gaddafi's regime
Abedi was born in Manchester in the UK

You are being a little disingenuous as usual Notch.

The Manchester bombers terrorist career began with the fall of the Gaddafi regime.
He travelled to Libya to join the Islamic fundamentalists who took over when NATO toppled Gaddafi, that is when he aquired the skills to make the bomb which killed so many innocent people.
Had Gaddafi still been in power, these fundamentalists would have been suppressed and abedi would never have been able to enter Libya without being arrested or killed.
Quote.
Abedi's father was a member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, a Salafi jihadist organisation proscribed by the United Nations,[55] and father and son fought for the group in Libya in 2011 as part of the movement to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi.[

 

[Vinty]

eh how long has it took russia to deal with them and do you think the west wants to give billions to these countries just for the fun of it .
If it wasnt strategic and they just wanted to give away billions then they would be giving the billions to impoverished countries in africa etc to give people a better life

The real target for the west is Russia itself.
They want to break it up and install a puppet in order to loot its natural resources.
This was the imperative that drove the Nazis to invade.

The rearming of Germany should be warning.

Drach nach Osten . Has always been an historical imperative among the right wing.


Drang nach Osten (German: [ˈdʁaŋ nax ˈʔɔstn̩]), 'Drive to the East',[1][2] or 'push eastward',[3] 'desire to push east', [4] is the motto of the 19th century German nationalist movement, that refers to the idea of German territorial expansion toward Eastern Europe into Slavic nations.[2][5] In some historical discourse, Drang nach Osten combines historical German settlement in Central and Eastern Europe, medieval (12th to 13th century)[6] military expeditions like those of the Teutonic Knights (see Northern Crusades), and Germanisation policies and warfare of modern German states such as those that reflected Nazism's concept of Lebensraum.[3][7]

 

[Deleted member 18243]

The rearming of Germany should be warning.

Drach nach Osten . Has always been an historical imperative


Drang nach Osten (German: [ˈdʁaŋ nax ˈʔɔstn̩]), 'Drive to the East',[1][2] or 'push eastward',[3] 'desire to push east', [4] is the motto of the 19th century German nationalist movement, that refers to the idea of German territorial expansion toward Eastern Europe into Slavic nations.[2][5] In some historical discourse, Drang nach Osten combines historical German settlement in Central and Eastern Europe, medieval (12th to 13th century)[6] military expeditions like those of the Teutonic Knights (see Northern Crusades), and Germanisation policies and warfare of modern German states such as those that reflected Nazism's concept of Lebensraum.[3][7]

We have not seem this imperative in Germany for a long time. The current German government appears to want to abolish Germany by flooding it with third worlders, much the same as our government is doing here.