Dover...

[ajohn]

The Dover blame game - 3 separate groups blame each other. One by saying tunnel problems had nothing to do with it. Odd that there was one.

I'd have thought by now that people would realise that listening to blame games is pointless. No one is going to say it was me. Fact is what happened did and given what a grey world it is the problem is very likely to relate to a number of factors. People much prefer nice simple black and white reason for all ills. Sadly things generally aren't that simple.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

The news presented to us, and thence discussed by the sheeple as if it was important, is all about problems faced by people trying to leave via the Kent coast. The news of real importance that affects every one of us in Britain is about the people entering illegally at the Kent coast. This news is suppressed of course.

 

[IT Minion]

Speaking of which, did anyone see the three reports about how badly that is all going?

The Royal Navy thinks it's a disaster putting them in charge.

One of the supervisory committee said that the Home Office is just making stuff up on the fly and it's counterproductive

A Foreign office report removed Rwanda from the short list due to Human rights concerns.

 

[Mottie]

17.4m fools

Don’t put yourself down.

 

[ajohn]

Could all this be hurting the small businesses in France that survive on British tourism?

From what I have seen there on a tour they get loads from all over the place including their own.

LOL Bear in mind they don't need to go there to holiday there.

In much of Europe (especially Italy and France), cities are partially shut down in July and August, when local urbanites take their beach breaks. You'll hear that these are terrible times to travel, but it's really no big deal

Places other than beaches as well. It is no big deal. It's what normally happens.

 

[ellal]

that hate the UK

Yep, that's you...

For you that would be like turkeys voting for Christmas, wouldn’t it?

You being one of those brexiteer turkeys...

Have you come up with a single tangible 'brexit benefit' yet?

 

[Odds]

The Chief Executive of the Port of Dover is blaming 4-hour delays on extra checks needed since Brexit and the ISU agree with him.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

the ISU agree with him.

Bless you

 

[Odds]

Bless you

Thanks.
Plaster dust gets everywhere.

 

[JBR]

Could all this be hurting the small businesses in France that survive on British tourism?

We were going to France during summer holidays but have now decided to visit Suffolk again. I'd rather go France but there seems to be a few faces without noses at the moment.

If the British tourists learnt from this palaver, they would not risk going to France again. The French are petty and will do all they can to make life difficult for us.
However, there is an obvious solution!
Of course, Calais is the nearest European port for us, but the French are probably going to keep doing what they're doing now, so why not bypass France entirely?
We don't even need to use Dover. We have several ports which, although less close to Calais, are perfectly suitable for Dutch and Belgian ports. Although the Netherlands and Belgium are also in the EU, as I understand it they don't possess the hatred that the French have for the British and I'm sure would welcome our tourist money.
A longer sea journey perhaps, but perhaps a shorter overall journey if you include the intentional French holdups at Dover! I'd rather be sitting comfortably on a cross-Channel ferry than in a hot car in a long queue.

 

[ellal]

The Chief Executive of the Port of Dover is blaming 4-hour delays on extra checks needed since Brexit and the ISU agree with him.

Yep...

Further to that...

"Doug Bannister, chief executive of the Port of Dover, said the increased checks at the border that have come with Brexit are the blame for 'increased transaction times' that have caused huge tailbacks into the port over the last couple of days."

"In the process he appeared to backtrack from comments he made yesterday in which he said the port had been 'let down' by French border control staff after some passport booths were left empty on Thursday and Friday."

"'We are operating in a post-Brexit environment which does mean that passports need to be checked, they need to be stamped and indeed the capable people that do man the booths, Police Aux Frontieres, they're doing their job that they need to do now"

 

[JP_]

And bbc reckon .
DON’T LEAVE YOUR HOUSE.
again.

Go on, share the video, article, tweet, even tik tok, of the BBC saying this.

 

[crystal ball]

I cannot and do not want to provide stats, you provide stats if you want. Hope that settles the matter for you!

Reinforces the fact that you make stuff up to suit your agenda

 

[JP_]

Most sane people would expect a system that might entail a cursory document check of say, one in every ten or twenty people, that's certainly how it worked for decades before joining the EU. What we're witnessing now is spite on the part of the EU. We should retaliate by not exporting gas and electric, I doubt we will though, the UK is above that sort of childish behaviour.

It's not spite, it's border control. The same control we voted for here.

While in the EU, if you have a passport you can travel freely. If you are not in the EU, you need to have at least 6 months on your passport to enter. So all passports need to have the date checked to make sure their passport is valid.

We voted for this. This is the "control our borders" bit - obviously it works both ways. And of course, it affects us more than it affects people coming in. Classic case of shooting ourselves in the foot.

And this is not a big shock like so many people are making it out to be - Project Fear predicted this.

But it is not all just Brexit. It is also terrible government. Our flagship airline, British Airways, has cancelled hundreds of flights, meaning people who have booked holidays need to drive/ferry now. We could blame the pandemic, but it is poor government that has created this mess, although Brexit is the cause of the staff shortages.

We're all doomed.

 

[ajohn]

If the British tourists learnt from this palaver, they would not risk going to France again. The French are petty and will do all they can to make life difficult for us.

There is a simple solution. Forcibly send all of the xenophobes who live in the UK to Rwanda. Not only would it create a wide range of vacancies for the unemployed, part solve housing problems it would also prevent even yet more idiotic posts on here.

Numbers would be a relatively small number of those that voted out. Their brain cells wouldn't be missed.