OK anti-Jabbers, Argue This One

[Harry Bloomfield]

In the case of the covid vaccine, the jab DID NOT cause your sore arm, because the covid vaccines have ABSOLUTELY NO adverse effects.

Rubbish! I've had it 4 maybe 5 times now and each time there was at least some level of pain involved post vaccination. Obvious when you think about it, they pump a fluid into the muscle of the arm, which causes some slight internal bruising. The minor inconvenience, is well worth it for the benefits it offers, for the sensible amongst us.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Noseall and Denso said it, they are official legitimate sources. They are authorities on things that didn’t happen.

1 I doubt they ever said that, but maybe it is how you interpretated it. You will be able to provide this proof they said it?

2 Have you ever visited any legitimate vaccine site for information, good or bad

3 Making comments like that just shows how little thought you put into comments

 

[ajohn]

I've heard that said a lot in last couple of years, but had never heard it said of any vaccine before covid.

This doesn't mean that the comment isn't true. The problem word really is immunity. and it's literal meaning in a normal sense.

They prepare the immune system to fight what ever virus they are aimed at. The only real differance with covid stuff is they inject part of the virus and that has been manufactured, Usually they are weakened virus, dead one or a different species that works such as smallpox which uses cowpox. Some last longer than others. The body never retains immunity to some. Flu is a good example with even more complications - which version comes along here. Sometimes they reckon it hasn't worked out. Chose the wrong one. Doesn't happen very often and one version of flu can kill a lot of people.

 

[johnny2007]

Really? So the flu vaccine, which has been around for at least a couple of decades but which doesn't guarantee 100% that you won't get flu isn't a vaccine by your definition. You obviously need to go and school the NHS, because they are getting it all wrong

Many clued up doctors and nurses call it flu JAB, not vaccine, exactly for that reason.

A vaccine works by getting the body to make anti bodies creating a level of immunity.

vaccines Don’t necessarily prevent infection, and therefore they don’t necessarily stop transmission.

So you agree with me.
Vaccines stop the vaccinated from getting the disease and associated symptoms, but they can still carry it and pass it on.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Many clued up doctors and nurses call it flu JAB, not vaccine, exactly for that reason.

Maybe you need a better dictionary:

noun: jab; plural noun: jabs

1. a quick, sharp blow, especially with the fist.
   "a jab in the stomach", lunge
   • 
     
   • INFORMAL•BRITISH
     a hypodermic injection, especially a vaccination.
     "an anti-tetanus jab"
     
     

 

[johnny2007]

Maybe you need a better dictionary:

noun: jab; plural noun: jabs

1. a quick, sharp blow, especially with the fist.
   "a jab in the stomach", lunge
   • 
     
   • INFORMAL•BRITISH
     a hypodermic injection, especially a vaccination.
     "an anti-tetanus jab"

I see.
You have a dictionary but you can't read it.
The word "especially" is the one you should look up.
It's not a synonym of "always" or "strictly".
BOOM!

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Many clued up doctors and nurses call it flu JAB, not vaccine, exactly for that reason.

So you agree with me.
Vaccines stop the vaccinated from getting the disease and associated symptoms, but they can still carry it and pass it on.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/flu-influenza-vaccine/


Hope that might be able to answer it for you.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

My selfish reason was that having had pneumonia about 30 years previously I didn't fancy having a catheter (drain) in my chest for several weeks again. My selfish reason was that having had radio- chemo in the past I have a suppressed immune system, so flu or Covid could kill me. My selfish reason was that I wanted to continue living as opposed to possibly dying of an avoidable disease because I hadn't taken mitigating steps. So yes , selfish, in the same way that having a flu jab, or pneumonia jab, or an anti-tettanus jab or a malaria jab is.

But the plus side is that if you are vaccinated the risks of getting these diseases is reduced, as are the effects if you do get them - and that in turn brings advantages to the whole of society by, for example, reducing workplace absences (at least by duration), GP visits and hospital treatments - none of which are selfish reasons for habing a jab.

But if anyone is dumb enough to think that Covid is nothing more than a cold, maybe you should consider that colds don't kill millions these days. Or maybe it's just that nobody in your circle died of it

Keep your hair on!

 

[ajohn]

but they can still carry it and pass it on.

Of course they can, All that has been said on that aspect is that they usually reduce cross infection rates, Not stop them.

 

[Justin Passing]

Many clued up doctors and nurses call it flu JAB, not vaccine, exactly for that reason.

So you agree with me.
Vaccines stop the vaccinated from getting the disease and associated symptoms, but they can still carry it and pass it on.

Nope.
It prearms your immune system.
Results vary.

 

[noseall]

So you agree with me.
Vaccines stop the vaccinated from getting the disease and associated symptoms

Correct. You'd have to be an idiot to refuse a vaccine if offered.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Rubbish! I've had it 4 maybe 5 times now and each time there was at least some level of pain involved post vaccination. Obvious when you think about it, they pump a fluid into the muscle of the arm, which causes some slight internal bruising. The minor inconvenience, is well worth it for the benefits it offers, for the sensible amongst us.

Every adverse event following the administration if a covid vaccine has nothing to do with the vaccine. Nosey and Denso said so! There is nothing obvious or sensible about covid and its vaccines.

1 I doubt they ever said that, but maybe it is how you interpretated it. You will be able to provide this proof they said it?

You are fairly new here, but do an advanced search on "Andy 11 MHRA Yellow Card" and you will see Denso, Noseall and many others denying the adverse effects of the covid vaccines experienced by millions.

 

[IT Minion]

Andy's attempts to understand the yellow card system are a damining indictment of the educational standards of England in the early 1800s.

 

[ajohn]

Yellow Card

That is a snake pit. It can not be looked at in isolation. The problem is that people have clots , strokes, pains, die and all sorts of things all of the time. Vaccinate millions and all that they can do is compare rates of various things that crop up normally. You can't do that.

Another factor is that a limited number of people have problems following any vaccination. The degree varies and may need treatment. The reason for this is simple. A vaccine causes the immune system to become active. That can make people feel unwell. Covid boosters seem to be good at that for some few people, feeling really bad. All given can have the same effect for some period of time as virus do when people catch them. Inflammation can figure following any vaccination. That can cause odd aches and pains and things like Bell's Palsy. They clear up or people seek treatment.

My wife always has an aching arm after any jab. I never do. I could feel what was pumped in on one covid jab, Poorly given, probably air.

 

[johnny2007]

www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/flu-influenza-vaccine/


Hope that might be able to answer it for you.

So you can't read.
"Many clued up doctors and nurses" doesn't mean "the NHS".
Are you 10 years old?
Why are you not in school?