Hate Crime Incident

[Bod ...]

We've all left the 1970's behind boyo. You should try it.

Correct. Way way behind.

There isn't the racism now like ther used to be. So much so someone come out with a subconscious bias just so the anti fascist can earn their money .

 

[Bod ...]

I wonder just how many black people are offended by all this? These panics are usually whipped up by do-gooding / troublecausing outsiders.

If I had a a Gollywog strapped to the headrest in my van I don't think my black customers would be so fond of me or if I used the word ***.

More my point is who makes these rules we all expected to abide by.

I don't just mean the Gollywogs but everything about racism in what we can and can't say and do. So in general your right there is not the offence taken.

 

[blup]

It's never healthy, teaches people that hate is acceptable.

Jeez, I'm not advocating violence, just that spectator sport is way of expressing yourself. If you want to participate in managed violence I would say join the army, a boxing club, a rugby club, or the Met.

Blup

 

[Bod ...]

Jeez, I'm not advocating violence, just that spectator sport is way of expressing yourself. If you want to participate in managed violence I would say join the army, a boxing club, a rugby club, or the Met.

Blup

Are you saying all in the Met a violent?

 

[blup]

Managed violence is part of a copper's role.

Blup

 

[JohnD]

Are you saying all in the Met a violent?

I didn't see the word "all."

Did you?

 

[Bod ...]

Managed violence is part of a copper's role.

Blup

I didn't see the word "all."

Did you?

No I didn't
But I never say all foreigners are criminals but you'll soon jump on my back when I'm talking about foreign criminals.

 

[JP_]

Jeez, I'm not advocating violence, just that spectator sport is way of expressing yourself. If you want to participate in managed violence I would say join the army, a boxing club, a rugby club, or the Met.

Blup

I have nothing against sport, I've been doing martial arts most of my life too.
I was referring purely the the hate part, which is not really anything to do with football.

 

[blup]

I have nothing against sport, I've been doing martial arts most of my life too.
I was referring purely the the hate part, which is not really anything to do with football.

I have to disagree there, hate seems to be a big part of football, look at rangers and celtic for example. Many of the fans feel a greater sense of belonging to their on team because of the hate they have for the other team.

Blup

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Mrs Bod is Indian Polish from her father. There's nothing Indian Polish about her.

My mate who's Malaysian from his father is culturally and English as I am.

Nothing different apart from he supports West Ham and 17 stone heavier than me.

This is me to a degree. White Scottish mum, brown Indian dad. Never knew him. Never knew any of his family. Never had anything to do with India and feel no affiliation to that country or its people, probably because I've had no real life connection to it as such. Note I'm not anti-India, just stating the fact about how 'Indian' I feel or project to other people. There will be white UK born folk on this forum that know more, perhaps a lot more, about India than I do.

However, because of my skin colour, some people will and do make certain judgements. Having said that, making judgements about people based on how they look isn't an uncommon thing. The danger is when people then do something that crosses the line simply based on how someone looks.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I have to disagree there, hate seems to be a big part of football, look at rangers and celtic for example. Many of the fans feel a greater sense of belonging to their on team because of the hate they have for the other team.

Blup

Football still has an issue with racism, anyone who says otherwise is misinformed, stupid, or both. Yes it's no doubt a lot better than it was decades back, however it's still there.

I've told this story before on here. Granted it was decades back, when I was a boy my older cousin took me to a football match, he's white I'm brown. We had football scarves on. A few men (supporting the same team) were walking towards us singing 'oh we hate (other team) and we hate (other team), we hate (other team) and we hate ...' etc etc. I kind of smiled up at them as we passed, however as they passed they temporarily changed the wording to 'we hate p a k 1 s and we hate p a k 1 s ...' which was nice of them.

 

[blup]

My recollection of hatred is of a colleague from the north east who had moved south but took his son up to the matches. Son spoke with a southern accent and was effectively forced out of the ground despite said fathers protestations.

That's taking hatred to an altogether new level

Blup

 

[Bod ...]

This is me to a degree. White Scottish mum, brown Indian dad. Never knew him. Never knew any of his family. Never had anything to do with India and feel no affiliation to that country or its people, probably because I've had no real life connection to it as such. Note I'm not anti-India, just stating the fact about how 'Indian' I feel or project to other people. There will be white UK born folk on this forum that know more, perhaps a lot more, about India than I do.

However, because of my skin colour, some people will and do make certain judgements. Having said that, making judgements about people based on how they look isn't an uncommon thing. The danger is when people then do something that crosses the line simply based on how someone looks.

Mrs Bod has had very little to do with her dad since she was born.
She has met with her sisters and brother after they contacted her.

India however is my favourite country I love it and would love to retire there. Bout I doubt that will happen.

Listening to my Dad's mate watching football last night. He talks some crap. He went on and said I'm not racist I just don't like blacks. I just sigh.

Colour is not an issue it's people's believes attitude and how they conduct themselves.
I'm more than likely to have a drink with a black man of my Oik than a white man with a totally different outlook & attitude on life to me.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Mrs Bod has had very little to do with her dad since she was born.
She has met with her sisters and brother after they contacted her.

India however is my favourite country I love it and would love to retire there. Bout I doubt that will happen.

Listening to my Dad's mate watching football last night. He talks some crap. He went on and said I'm not racist I just don't like blacks. I just sigh.

Colour is not an issue it's people's believes attitude and how they conduct themselves.
I'm more than likely to have a drink with a black man of my Oik than a white man with a totally different outlook & attitude on life to me.

The only thing in your reply I disagree with is, for some, colour itself is the issue. Like your dad's mate saying he doesn't like black people presumably because they're black. Nothing more nothing less.

That's his choice of course, however for some colour and colour alone is enough for their prejudices to come to the fore.

 

[Bod ...]

This is me to a degree. White Scottish mum, brown Indian dad. Never knew him. Never knew any of his family. Never had anything to do with India and feel no affiliation to that country or its people, probably because I've had no real life connection to it as such. Note I'm not anti-India, just stating the fact about how 'Indian' I feel or project to other people. There will be white UK born folk on this forum that know more, perhaps a lot more, about India than I do.

However, because of my skin colour, some people will and do make certain judgements. Having said that, making judgements about people based on how they look isn't an uncommon thing. The danger is when people then do something that crosses the line simply based on how someone looks.

Mrs Bod has had very little to do with her dad since she was born.
She has met with her sisters and brother after they contacted her.

India however is my favourite country I love it and would love to retire there. Bout I doubt that will happen.

Listening to my Dad's mate watching football last night. He talks some crap. He went on and said I'm not racist I just don't like blacks. I just sigh.

Colour is not an issue it's people's believes attitude and how they conduct themselves.
I'm more than likely to have a drink with a black make of my Oik than a white man with a totally different outlook on life to me