failing to understand the rules... again.

[Mrs Ten Names]

An MP is not a director of a large corporation.

They, especially ministers, are representatives of the UK government.

Are you seriously suggesting an MP needs the tax payer to subsidise their wardrobe?

I would expect representatives of UK government to be appropriately dressed.
When MPs were landed gentry, appropriate clothes could only be afforded by MPs.

Now that MPs are much more from normal working class backgrounds, a clothing allowance would reduce the "class/moneyed" advantages/differences between MPs.

 

[fillyboy]

I would expect representatives of UK government to be appropriately dressed.

 

[motorbiking]

Perhaps you could continue by making the argument that an MP on nearly a 100k or a minister on over 120k can't afford appropriate clothes?

Or perhaps you could show us how the above example would have the necessary qualifications, experience or ability to run a large corporation?

 

[Notch7]

Agreed.

Why are you only exercised about it now though?

Mottie was quite happy when his team were doing it…..and doing it a 100x greater

 

[Notch7]

Perhaps you could continue by making the argument that an MP on nearly a 100k or a minister on over 120k can't afford appropriate clothes?

Fashion designers and clothing firms have always given away stuff to anybody in the public eye

It has nothing to do with whether they can afford to pay for it or not.

And it’s about publicity of the clothing, not about policy influence.

 

[Notch7]

Because labour are in power of course!

So you were perfectly fine with when the idiots were in power

Of course you were

 

[Notch7]

Apparently Kieth should have been on today but is running scared of tv interviews at the moment.

The word “apparently” is doing a lot of heavy lifting

 

[Notch7]

Unions win non-binding vote calling for Labour to scrap winter fuel payment cuts

Unite general secretary Sharon Graham says the decision to cut the payments is a "noose around our necks".

www.bbc.co.uk

under Johnson the Tories had a terrible time understanding the rules….they interpreted “no social gatherings” as suitcases full of booze

 

[motorbiking]

Fashion designers and clothing firms have always given away stuff to anybody in the public eye

It has nothing to do with whether they can afford to pay for it or not.

And it’s about publicity of the clothing, not about policy influence.

I don't disagree.

but our favourite troll is trying to argue its ok for the Starmers to take free clothes and Rayner to sneak a mate on a free holiday because they can't afford to buy their own.. not to mention pay VAT on the purchase.

 

[johnny2007]

I keep on saying it and nobody believes me.
Left, right and centre they're all the same: squeezing us like lemons and doing things for their own interest.
The lot of them!

 

[JohnD]

Someone on £91,346 + expenses can't afford clothes

Boris Johnson couldn't afford wallpaper.

 

[JohnD]

Apparently Kieth should have been on today but is running scared of tv interviews at the moment.

He's not hiding in a fridge, is he?

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

Perhaps you could continue by making the argument that an MP on nearly a 100k or a minister on over 120k can't afford appropriate clothes?

Or perhaps you could show us how the above example would have the necessary qualifications, experience or ability to run a large corporation?

The problem with the current system is that only the current government receive such gifts because the donor can perceive potential advantages.

With a new government, especially mainly from a working class background, their income and expenditure will be carefully balanced.
A much fairer system would be the clothing allowance, where all MPs were due an allowance, not just the current government ministers.
It could be on a gradient depending on their role, as is the current pay of ministers, etc.

 

[blup]

The issue is whether the gifts were declared, and declared within the 28 day timescale. Ange is sailing close to the wind by jetting her bf over, who is as much in receipt of the gift as her IMO. She must also be nervous about the trailed rise in CGT. I am not bothered about Kieth getting help with his wardrobe. But did he delay disclosure of the gifts until after the election to avoid political smears, and did the gifts buy influence? Good old Kieth!

 

[Mrs Ten Names]

I don't disagree.

but our favourite troll is trying to argue its ok for the Starmers to take free clothes and Rayner to sneak a mate on a free holiday because they can't afford to buy their own.. not to mention pay VAT on the purchase.

You are misrepresenting my argument, as usual. I am arguing for a clothing allowance for all MPs.

As new incoming ministers their public facing duties and representatives of the government will have been reduced from that compared to a current government minister.
So there will be a bit of catching up to do.