Cardiff University to cut 400 jobs

[Notch7]

the reason appears to be caused by the reduction in foreign students due to changes in visas

My understanding is that the rules which allowed foreign students to come here, with family and stay and work up to 3 years after graduation was more open than most other countries and had led to the large numbers of foreign students coming here in recent years


Personally I think if the Higher Education model cant work without large number of foreign students then the model needs changing

 

[motorbiking]

Some uni's got a reputation for being visa factories. I'm not sure about Cardiff, but there were a few under investigation. Each visa can result in 10s of people being allowed here to settle and many (studying at those under investigation) did not have the means or education level to complete their courses.

 

[blup]

Unis actively courted foreign countries to subsidise their crap degrees

 

[IT Minion]

Unis actively courted foreign countries to subsidise their crap degrees

Lots of the top universities take large proportions of foreign students because they can charge more.

 

[blup]

Lots of the top universities take large proportions of foreign students because they can charge more.

There's room for both approaches

 

[MNW67]

Each visa can result in 10s of people being allowed here to settle

Somebody else told me that. What is the mechanism?

 

[MNW67]

Each visa can result in 10s of people being allowed here to settle and many (studying at those under investigation) did not have the means or education level to complete their courses.

I would have thought if they didn't complete the course the visa would be revoked. Also, I have found a list of dependants that can currently be brought below:

Your dependants​

A dependant partner or child is one of the following:

• your husband, wife or civil partner
• your unmarried partner
• your child under 18 years old - including if they were born in the UK during your stay

 

[denso13]

I would have thought if they didn't complete the course the visa would be revoked. Also, I have found a list of dependants that can currently be brought below:

Your dependants​

A dependant partner or child is one of the following:

• your husband, wife or civil partner
• your unmarried partner
• your child under 18 years old - including if they were born in the UK during your stay

Quite a lot of new restrictions on students,

Your partner and children​

Your partner and children (‘dependants’) may be able to apply to come to the UK or stay longer in the UK.
You must be one of the following:

• a government-sponsored student starting a course that lasts longer than 6 months
• a full-time student on a postgraduate level course (RQF level 7 or above) that lasts 9 months or longer

If your postgraduate level course starts on or after 1 January 2024, it must be either:

• a PhD or other doctorate (RQF level
• a research-based higher degree

Student visa

Apply for a Student visa to study in the UK if you're 16 or over - eligibility, extend or switch your visa, how much it costs and how long it takes

www.gov.uk

 

[MNW67]

Quite a lot of new restrictions on students,

What about the old rules? How could 10s of people get settled status for each visa?

 

[denso13]

What about the old rules? How could 10s of people get settled status for each visa?

Not sure, maybe if they tens of dependants, who knows how that would happen though.

 

[MNW67]

Not sure, maybe if they tens of dependants, who knows how that would happen though.

Maybe if a man has ten wives? That's only just occurred to me!

 

[Mottie]

I think I may have read about parents and grandparents being 'dependants' too.

 

[MNW67]

I think I may have read about parents and grandparents being 'dependants' too.

I can't find anything on that.

It looks like we'll need to wait for MBK to explain it all.

 

[charliegolf]

Unis actively courted foreign countries to subsidise their crap degrees

They were urged to do so by successive governments, to reduce central funding. Plus, overseas students rarely come to study underwater basket weaving or media.

 

[noseall]

I think I may have read about parents and grandparents being 'dependants' too.

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