Labour thug jailed.

[Notch7]

Irrelevant you moron.

If it was Trump supporter he should be given a medal for services to this country

 

[ellal]

I watched the video. As far as I recall the thief got away before Mottie could lamp him.

The video I saw shows mottie whacking him with the scaffold pole...

And then running crazily down the street (a public place) with said scaffold pole in hand...

In order to what?

maybe mottie could tell us?

 

[motorbiking]

for which he had a lawful excuse.

 

[ellal]

I think that scrote who I tapped on the noggin learned a valuable lesson that day. He never came back! May have even given up his life of crime. He'd probably thank me if we ever crossed paths again.

Ah so motorbiking is wrong...

You obviously are still involved in violent crime...

Had you left it as a 'tap' (as you laughingly called it) and it 'taught him a lesson', why did you then rampage through a public street?

What were you going to do next, given that the 'red mist' had obviously descended upon you?

 

[ellal]

for which he had a lawful excuse.

Ah, so it's ok to whack a person on the head with a very heavy object not knowing what the outcome would be?

And then race down a public street with said very heavy object threatening further violence?

Which bit of excessive force do you and mottie not get?

Edit: And mottie said that it would have been good if someone had taken a scaffold pole to someone ( without any evidence )who later went on to commit a horrific crime...

What if someone had seen a madman with a scaffold pole running amok ( with evidence ) and decided to take him out?

 

[fillyboy]

Ah, so it's ok to whack a person on the head with a very heavy object not knowing what the outcome would be?

And then race down a public street with said very heavy object threatening further violence?

Which bit of excessive force do you and mottie not get?

Edit: And mottie said that it would have been good if someone had taken a scaffold pole to someone who later went on to commit a horrific crime...

What if someone had seen a madman with a scaffold pole running amok and decided to take him out?

Don't know but it's a tribute to Motties fitness and stamina. Perhaps it could be an olympic event, the 100 yard scaffold pole dash, or a relay race using a scaff pole instead of a baton.

 

[motorbiking]

Ah, so it's ok to whack a person on the head with a very heavy object not knowing what the outcome would be?

And then race down a public street with said very heavy object threatening further violence?

Which bit of excessive force do you and mottie not get?

Edit: And mottie said that it would have been good if someone had taken a scaffold pole to someone who later went on to commit a horrific crime...

What if someone had seen a madman with a scaffold pole running amok and decided to take him out?

what if.. we had pre-crime police who could use some futuristic set-up to see into the future and arrest people before they had the idea to commit a crime.

He clearly grabbed something to hand, to see off a would be thief who was attempting to rob him of his property. Would you prefer he grabbed a large feather and got stabbed in the chest?

 

[Notch7]

Ah, so it's ok to whack a person on the head with a very heavy object not knowing what the outcome would be?

And then race down a public street with said very heavy object threatening further violence?

Which bit of excessive force do you and mottie not get?

Edit: And mottie said that it would have been good if someone had taken a scaffold pole to someone ( without any evidence )who later went on to commit a horrific crime...

What if someone had seen a madman with a scaffold pole running amok ( with evidence ) and decided to take him out?

If somebody breaks into your home or tries to steal something, I personally think you lose all rights because the victim does not know if the perpetrator is dangerous or armed

chasing somebody with a scaffold pole is in my mind more than reasonable defence

 

[noseall]

for which he had a lawful excuse.

Nonsense.

Chasing after someone (beyond your property) with a weapon is not a lawful excuse.

 

[noseall]

And then race down a public street with said very heavy object threatening further violence?

Correct, it is not lawful.

 

[Highway Man]

If somebody breaks into your home or tries to steal something, I personally think you lose all rights because the victim does not know if the perpetrator is dangerous or armed

chasing somebody with a scaffold pole is in my mind more than reasonable defence

It makes no difference what you think, the law dictates the outcome not you. The current law permits people to defend themselves or others, to prevent crime or to protect property using force that was reasonable in thecircumstances as they believed them to be. What constitutes `reasonable force' will depend upon the circumstances of each case and is a matter for the courts to decide

 

[motorbiking]

Correct.

Not you noseall you’re still wrong as usual.

Sec 3 criminal law act 1967.

Criminal Law Act 1967

An Act to amend the law of England and Wales by abolishing the division of crimes into felonies and misdemeanours and to amend and simplify the law in respect of matters arising from or related to that division or the abolition of it; to do away (within or without England and Wales) with certain...

www.legislation.gov.uk

 

[motorbiking]

If somebody breaks into your home or tries to steal something, I personally think you lose all rights because the victim does not know if the perpetrator is dangerous or armed

chasing somebody with a scaffold pole is in my mind more than reasonable defence

Indeed. Particularly two offenders who may have been armed.

 

[noseall]

Correct.

Not you noseall you’re still wrong as usual.

Sec 3 criminal law act 1967.

Criminal Law Act 1967

An Act to amend the law of England and Wales by abolishing the division of crimes into felonies and misdemeanours and to amend and simplify the law in respect of matters arising from or related to that division or the abolition of it; to do away (within or without England and Wales) with certain...

www.legislation.gov.uk

Reasonable force?

Chasing someone down the street with a weapon is not reasonable force, nor will it ever be.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

There is a line where self defence and protection of your property becomes violence