Trump v Zelenskyy

[pete01]

But Trump is not a great guy, is he?
If was he wouldn’t have behaved like the petulant child he is.

Even more sad is the fact people like you support him

Dont worry about me kid worry about the majority of Americans that voted for him.

 

[Munroast]

I agree with this. If you watch the 'discussion' back, once or twice you see Vance glance (poet and don't know it) at the reporters with what I would describe as a 'good, it's working' look on his face.

Zelensky definitely walked into it, and perhaps Trump also.

Yes, I don't think that was in Trumps plan. Trump is desperate for a deal, he has told the world repeatedly that he will end the war.

What is Trumps options if no deal is found - does he really give Ukraine to Putin in the same way Biden gave Afghanistan to the Taliban, Trmp has repeatedly condemned the later

I'm still hoping Trump and Zelensky will meet again behind closed doors and strike a deal - they both need it.

 

[fillyboy]

Yes, I don't think that was in Trumps plan. Trump is desperate for a deal, he has told the world repeatedly that he will end the war.

What is Trumps options if no deal is found - does he really give Ukraine to Putin in the same way Biden gave Afghanistan to the Taliban, Trmp has repeatedly condemned the later

I'm still hoping Trump and Zelensky will meet again behind closed doors and strike a deal - they both need it.

I got the impression they'd struck a deal a week ago, mineral rights with discussions on security to follow afterwards. At the last minute and on camera Zelensky changed his position to no mineral rights without security.

 

[gas112]

Far as i recall we didn't try to squeeze half the mineral wealth of the country, insult them in front of the world's media and demand they accept the deal or no military aid would be forthcoming in future.

probably because the kuwati`s were clever enough not to try and look like billy big baws and graciously thanked the yanks and coalition instead of refusing to say it and still refusing afterwards in the following news interviews .
Lets see who he now runs cap in hand to because Europe cant arm or fund him .
So will he then have to return to trump cap in hand and get an even worse deal than he would have got this weekend

 

[transam]

Well there is a damage limitation excercise meeting tomorrow in London ??

Of European nations hmmm

Dare say there will be a lot of hot air / blustering

Yes exactly

Oh dear

 

[blup]

and you think the hundred of billions the US gave to ukraine doesnt come with strings attached. Take your head out the sand . Next you will saying that gulf war 1 was because we really liked the Kuwaiti's and helped them out of pure goodness of our hearts

None of them paid to lose the war. Trumps is making a big mistake pulling out, he will get nothing.

 

[ETAF]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1047172897292050

 

[Notch7]

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Dont worry about me kid worry about the majority of Americans that voted for him.

I worry because the fools that think Trump is great are also silly enough to think Reform are great.

 

[noseall]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1047172897292050

People would pay good money to see that.

 

[ellal]

I got the impression they'd struck a deal a week ago, mineral rights with discussions on security to follow afterwards. At the last minute and on camera Zelensky changed his position to no mineral rights without security.

An 'impression' means nothing...

And what idiot would sign a one sided agreement?
(well apart from brexiteers, reform supporters, and zionist apologists)

What is fact is that you can't believe a word that comes out of the mouth of an orange rapist!

And vance is looking more and more like Goebbels day by day...

And with musk acting like himmler we can see where this is probably heading!

 

[blup]

with discussions on security to follow afterwards.

Exactly, “to follow”

 

[IT Minion]

Some papers are suggesting it was planned. They wanted an excuse to cut ties with Ukraine in a way that it looked like Ukraine's fault.

 

[ellal]

Some papers are suggesting it was planned. They wanted an excuse to cut ties with Ukraine in a way that it looked like Ukraine's fault.

Of course it was a stitch up...

Planned by the orange one and poo tin!

 

[Munroast]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1047172897292050

brilliant - that made my day

 

[blup]

Some papers are suggesting it was planned. They wanted an excuse to cut ties with Ukraine in a way that it looked like Ukraine's fault.

Planned or not the whole thing was inexcusable. But more likely cock up than conspiracy. You can’t conspire when you don’t know what the boss is going to say or do next. Zellenski’s instinct to call out the BS was the right one because it made clear that Trumpf is in it for the money. A mafia stitch up