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What you fail to understand is the purpose of voting in a leader is to make life better for the people.

Trump only makes life better for himself and the wealthy, Reform party are the same.

The deal might be good for Trump, not ordinary citizens
Deary deary me, your arguments against really are getting weaker and weaker.

Let's say you're partially correct, that Trump does indeed have an eye on what he can get out of his presidency. You think he's the first president to do this? You think some of our prime ministers haven't partially done the same?

Wake up.
 
American voters aren’t about to die.

They are just going to be made much worse off


The Ukraine war would’ve ended sooner had Trump not delayed the aid package last year
Not mentioned American voters dying? The ones about to die are the Russian and Ukraine soldiers fighting the war along with civilians thrown into the mix.
 
I wish the GoP would stop harping on about the American Republic as "that shining city upon the hill", as though it's relevant to the modern day Autocracy run by Billionaires it has become.

WHEREAS the United States of America has provided significant financial and material support to Ukraine since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022;

Translation: we want our money back.
The brown tongue supporters of the US/Trump appear to be totally ignorant of historical facts...

The US 'lent' Britain enough money/munitions/material to carry on the war (WWII) in Europe and rebuild...

When was that 'loan' eventually paid off?

Not until 2006!

The UK is about to head into the same trap again, since it is all about money as far as the US is concerned...

The money men have always run that country!

And the two presidents who wanted to independently produce treasury dollars were assassinated...

Go figure ;)
 
Trumps blatant lies about aid to Ukraine

he claims America has given $350b
the real figure is $120b

 
Trump is no intellectual match for Zelensky

poor old Trump is having a hissy fit :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

 
Trump is no intellectual match for Zelensky

poor old Trump is having a hissy fit :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

In what way, he was actually trying to save the country of Ukraine. A deal and cease fire is more productive than continuing the war.
 
I've been taking my usual soundings from the Telegraph comments section, which has exploded with condemnation for Trump.

Vance is so disgusting, trying to get Zelensky to lick their boots.
 
A deal and cease fire is more productive than continuing the war.
a cease fire that surrenders to Putin is not ending the war merely delaying it
Trump is trying to sell Ukraine to Putin
Trump is doing Putins bidding for him

it is not hard to work this.
 
a cease fire that surrenders to Putin is not ending the war merely delaying it
Trump is trying to sell Ukraine to Putin
Trump is doing Putins bidding for him

it is not hard to work this.
He isn't surrendering to Putin, the US isn't at war with Russia. I doubt that any deal that can be done will not have concessions regardless to what it looks like. He is certainly going about it all wrong lookling at it as it isn't a good look.
 
You don’t have the knowledge to discuss this

When you are, I will be happy to debate it with you.
Ok, will bare that in mind. Ok so I have thought about it now and have decided that I do have sufficient knowledge to discuss this but probably not with you. I think your reply to me says it all. You know I won't tolerate your nonsense and therefore you gave that response from fear of being ridiculed.
 
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He isn't surrendering to Putin, the US isn't at war with Russia.
And that's the beauty of it. He's happily surrendering Ukraine to Russia, without a US life being lost. How noble.
I doubt that any deal that can be done will not have concessions regardless to what it looks like
All Ukrainian - zero Russian. Hilarious.
. He is certainly going about it all wrong
Zalenskyy told him so at the White House and the Orange Idiot and his acolytes attacked him.
 
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