Why is Trump so keen on Putin

[Highway Man]

They have no right to demand that. Ukraine should be free to do whatever they want.

Of course they did, this was once again all through Gorbachev. They was not permitted to do as they liked but to become an independant state with strings attached.

 

[denso13]

Spot on, and during this transition I will add my post of this just for clarity.
Russia accused Ukraine of a military build-up of its own and demanded "legal guarantees" that it would never join NATO. Now there is talk of Ukraine joining NATO putin is having none of it so he has taken his only action that he could to. prevent this.

Sugar coat it as much as you like. Russia are the illegal invaders, that's just a fact.

 

[Highway Man]

Sugar coat it as much as you like. Russia are the illegal invaders, that's just a fact.

We are getting there, I agree with you however as I stated, it is understandable

 

[denso13]

however as I stated, it is understandable

In your opinion. Hitler's supporters no doubt argued he was justified in his actions.

 

[Highway Man]

Ukraine and Russia have been at war with each other for generations wanting independance from Russian rule. Gorbachev finally agreed it but there were some restrictions. They have never tried to join NATO so the wars before allowing them their independance was between those two, nothing to do with anyone else. Now throw NATO membership into the mix and we have a different ball game.

 

[Notch7]

We are getting there, I agree with you however as I stated, it is understandable

The reason for Russia invading Ukraine is because Putin is an Imperialist dictator.

Unintelligent people fall for the Russian propaganda that it has something to do with NATO.

 

[Highway Man]

The reason for Russia invading Ukraine is because Putin is an Imperialist dictator.

Unintelligent people fall for the Russian propaganda that it has something to do with NATO.

Pipe down, this way over your head to understand

 

[Notch7]

but there were some restrictions

Only on Russian Nuclear weapons in Ukraine

Other than than Ukraine became a fully sovereign country in 1991

No other restrictions

 

[Notch7]

Pipe down, this way over your head to understand

It is very easy to understand: you are an uninformed Trump / Reform supporter and you are spouting Kremlin propaganda because you don’t know any better.

 

[Highway Man]

It is very easy to understand: you are an uninformed Trump / Reform supporter and you are spouting Kremlin propaganda because you don’t know any better.

OMG

 

[Highway Man]

It is very easy to understand: you are an uninformed Trump / Reform supporter and you are spouting Kremlin propaganda because you don’t know any better.

take read and this should keep you quiet for a few mins. then you can pop off and start a thread about the orange man or something.

Ukraine’s Push for Independence – Association for Diplomatic Studies & Training

adst.org

 

[securespark]

The willingness to lay down your life is enough. Sign on the dotted line and we will get you on those front lines tomorrow morning.

Very quick to help others to the front line.

Are you yourself willing to fight?

 

[Notch7]

take read and this should keep you quiet for a few mins. then you can pop off and start a thread about the orange man or something.

Ukraine’s Push for Independence – Association for Diplomatic Studies & Training

adst.org

Yes I read that article and others by Gunderson, it doesn’t prove what you claim…..which shows you’ve not read it


Here is the full text of the

Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine​

Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine

static.rada.gov.ua

And here is the Budapest memorandum:

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf

Once you’ve read those and actually have some knowledge, you just might be able to debate sensibly.

 

[Highway Man]

Very quick to help others to the front line.

Are you yourself willing to fight?

Already answered this

 

[Highway Man]

Yes I read that article and others by Gunderson, it doesn’t prove what you claim…..which shows you’ve not read it


Here is the full text of the

Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine​

Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine

static.rada.gov.ua

And here is the Budapest memorandum:

https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume%203007/Part/volume-3007-I-52241.pdf

Once you’ve read those and actually have some knowledge, you just might be able to debate sensibly.

Go speak to Sandra on the Tesco checkout, she will explain all you need to know