Has Britain really still got this grit

[denso13]

There's no need for a ground war, just give Ukraine what they need to properly defend themselves.

 

[Highway Man]

There's no need for a ground war, just give Ukraine what they need to properly defend themselves.

They haven't got the man power to give them what they need, no point supplying 300 attack helicopters if they only have 5 pilots, likewise with the rest of the equipment.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

There's no need for a ground war, just give Ukraine what they need to properly defend themselves.

All their citizens have left.

And they can afford to but their own, given the natural resources they have….

 

[carmanmemoranda]

They haven't got the man power to give them what they need, no point supplying 300 attack helicopters if they only have 5 pilots, likewise with the rest of the equipment.

Training is part of the support they need.

 

[Highway Man]

Training is part of the support they need.

How long do you suppose it takes to train a military pilot? These are not spitfires you know.

 

[MNW67]

They haven't got the man power to give them what they need, no point supplying 300 attack helicopters if they only have 5 pilots, likewise with the rest of the equipment.

I did read that they are often using the existing equipment in the wrong way. Using lost of very expensive weapons when they aren't actually required. I can't remember the exact details now because I have largely switched off from it.

 

[Highway Man]

I did read that they are often using the existing equipment in the wrong way. Using lost of very expensive weapons when they aren't actually required. I can't remember the exact details now because I have largely switched off from it.

Exactly my point. You cannot simply arm them in that way.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

How long do you suppose it takes to train a military pilot? These are not spitfires you know.

As long as it takes. How long has the war been going on?

 

[denso13]

Exactly my point. You cannot simply arm them in that way.

It is becoming more difficult, we should have armed them at the start and it wouldn't have lasted this long.

 

[Highway Man]

As long as it takes. How long has the war been going on?

and that time would probably turn out a rookie pilot and give them our expensive planes to destroy.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

and that time would probably turn out a rookie pilot and give them our expensive planes to destroy.

Why?

Is the training we provide to our pilots not good enough ?

 

[Highway Man]

It is becoming more difficult, we should have armed them at the start and it wouldn't have lasted this long.

Well that is an arguable point, but then politics played the part of not wanting the involvement.

 

[Highway Man]

Why?

Is the training we provide to our pilots not good enough ?

Our training is the best but takes a lot of flying hours after to get a pilot into a dog fight.

 

[Highway Man]

• Mission Qualification Training (MQT):
  After completing the B-Course, pilots will complete their initial Mission Qualification Training (MQT) to further their skills to become combat ready fighter pilots.
  
  
• • Total Training Time:
    The entire process, from initial training to becoming a combat-ready fighter pilot, can take approximately 3-4 years

 

[denso13]

Our training is the best but takes a lot of flying hours after to get a pilot into a dog fight.

No need for dog fights, you are overthinking it.