Reform did well. Again.

[Notch7]

AND you are raking up last years manifesto

I said Reform are free market libertarians
You said no that’s just opinion

So I quoted what their manifesto says which proves what I stated is fact not opinion.

Their manifesto is their setting out what they would do over the next 5 years if they had won, so it’s their current policy.


There’s plenty of evidence Farage / Reform are right wing populists - they use the populist playbook and there’s plenty of evidence Farage cares about the rich not ordinary citizens.

You just don’t like so you try and dismiss it as opinion.

 

[Murdochcat]

I said Reform are free market libertarians
You said no that’s just opinion

So I quoted what their manifesto says which proves what I stated is fact not opinion.

Their manifesto is their setting out what they would do over the next 5 years if they had won, so it’s their current policy.


There’s plenty of evidence Farage / Reform are right wing populists - they use the populist playbook and there’s plenty of evidence Farage cares about the rich not ordinary citizens.

You just don’t like so you try and dismiss it as opinion.

This thread is about this weeks local elections ….. had they won EVERY seat they still couldn’t do much , if anything at a national level.

You need to demonstrate you understand what empathy is

 

[Vinty]

- Numbers can be reduced simply by ridding the CS of the dead wood who are just biding their time for pension and the slackers

Have you ever worked for a private company.?
I was self employed for years, i then got a job with the Ministry of defence because i needed a regular income in order to get a mortgage, working for government as an industrial civil servant was a bit of a culture shock.
I like a few other new employees, complained about how the system worked and how slow everything moved.
I was called into an office one day and told that i was doing ok in my job but "don't rock the boat", in other words, just turn up on time every morning and go home at night, don't question the system.

I left the M.o.D after a few years because of the feeling of inertia and the boredom.
I now realise that the Civil service operates on a different rationale than a private company, so it cant be compared to one.

 

[gas112]

Have you ever worked for a private company.?
I was self employed for years, i then got a job with the Ministry of defence because i needed a regular income in order to get a mortgage, working for government as an industrial civil servant was a bit of a culture shock.
I like a few other new employees, complained about how the system worked and how slow everything moved.
I was called into an office one day and told that i was doing ok in my job but "don't rock the boat", in other words, just turn up on time every morning and go home at night, don't question the system.

I left the M.o.D after a few years because of the feeling of inertia and the boredom.
I now realise that the Civil service operates on a different rationale than a private company, so it cant be compared to one.

Bit like working for a local authority all the ex self employed guys would be saying to each other wtf is going on here while suggesting better more efficient money saving work practises and actually doing a full days work as opposed to the lifetime council worker had very little to no work ethic or monetary responsibility or care .
Frightening what was classed as a days work .

 

[ReganAndCarter]

So how come it wasn’t a problem before 1984 when the IHT farm concessions were introduced

There was relief before 1984. It was just called something else.

Capital transfer tax provided relief for estates including farmland and buildings up to £250,000 or 1,000 acres. This would have covered the value or size of 99% of farms pre-1984. Prior to this there were similar allowances under Estate Duty.

Some of this this tax legislation would have been drafted in the first half of the 20th century when politicians were more interested in food security following world wars than spiteful, green-eyed and destructive socialist dogma.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

I’m not discriminating against people who went to private school.

I am pointing out people like Farage and Tice both went to expensive private schools, are both millionaires and yet they claim to be on the side of ordinary people - they aren’t.


I am personally in 2 minds about the private school system, I believe that people generally should have choice, but at the same time It’s true to say that the private school systems maintain the class system as does the Royal family.

Perversely by adding VAT to school fees, Old Labour have made private education more expensive and exclusive - now only for the wealth few.

 

[Notch7]

ownership of doing a good job is sadly lacking in many instances we all see the pot holes repairs that needed extending by as little as a couple of inches to stop the water and weather getting under them again but nope the white paint mark stops there and im not spending 30 seconds extra digging that out

I would agree that Labour haven’t delivered on their pledge to fix potholes, in 2024 there were 1.9million potholes fixed, but that’s not the 1 million increase Labour promised.

The elephant in the room is the fact 1 in 6 roads have less than 5 years of structural life left, whilst the average street is resurfaced every 93 years

A one off cost to sort out our roads is 16.8b, my guess is that under funding will continue so that will go up.


I appreciate what you say about inefficiency, but I can’t find any useful data to show what the reality is.



Some of the roads near me have potholes so bad if you went one you would be damaging your tyre and alloys, some roads are so bad driving at night becomes dangerous as you can’t see them.

But Sussex does seem to be improving the roads, I’ve definitely seen some improvement on some key roads, I’m not suggesting that’s connected to a Labour govt, I’m just stating how things are.

Don’t start me on the pavement, my sister in law is very disabled and wheeling her around is a nightmare, last weekend I hit a bump and nearly had her flying out of the wheelchair.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Bit like working for a local authority all the ex self employed guys would be saying to each other wtf is going on here while suggesting better more efficient money saving work practises and actually doing a full days work as opposed to the lifetime council worker had very little to no work ethic or monetary responsibility or care .
Frightening what was classed as a days work .

People generally go self employed because they can see a better way to earn better money.

Not everybody is cut out for it. Greater reward, but it comes with greater risks.

Some are happy with a regular payday

 

[Notch7]

when politicians were more interested in food security following world wars than spiteful, green-eyed and destructive socialist dogma

The destructive neoliberal free market greed has led to the hoarding of land since the bung was introduced by Margaret Thatcher in 1984, which steadily driven up land prices.


It seems like you want British farm land to be entirely owned by private equity squeezing life out of this country to go to the wealthy


farming has been long overdue for tax

Since the IHT loophole in 1984 farmers have increasingly had to rent farm land.

 

[Notch7]

Bit like working for a local authority all the ex self employed guys would be saying to each other wtf is going on here while suggesting better more efficient money saving work practises and actually doing a full days work as opposed to the lifetime council worker had very little to no work ethic or monetary responsibility or care .
Frightening what was classed as a days work .

Increasingly councils are bringing services back in house, because they can deliver better services at lower prices.

At the same time, research by the Association for Public Service Excellencefinds that many councils are choosing to bring services back in house. Councils do this to save money, improve service quality or have a more flexible approach (instead of getting stuck with a rigid contract).

Council services

Outsourcing has failed

weownit.org.uk

 

[Notch7]

This thread is about this weeks local elections ….. had they won EVERY seat they still couldn’t do much , if anything at a national level.

You need to demonstrate you understand what empathy is

The Reform party certainly know nothing about empathy, they just know about hate.

Andrea Jenkyns first speech talked about putting refugees in tents… empathy


This thread is about the Reform party
Reform party are a right wing populist party whose ideology is free market libertarianism….that’s a fact, not opinion.

 

[gas112]

Increasingly councils are bringing services back in house, because they can deliver better services at lower prices.

At the same time, research by the Association for Public Service Excellencefinds that many councils are choosing to bring services back in house. Councils do this to save money, improve service quality or have a more flexible approach (instead of getting stuck with a rigid contract).

Council services

Outsourcing has failed

weownit.org.uk

i agree they should be brought back in house but its frightening the standard of some and it is not just a few of the management and worker that they employ .
Would never last a week in the real world .
Dont kid yourself the services would be better and at a lower price just because its in house .

 

[gas112]

People generally go self employed because they can see a better way to earn better money.

Not everybody is cut out for it. Greater reward, but it comes with greater risks.

Some are happy with a regular payday

and what does that have to do with doing your job correctly and efficiently are you saying because your employed by a council etc then there is no need to do so ?

 

[Justin Passing]

There are comments around saying "at least Trump is doing things, we need a bit of that."
Farage voters, perhaps.

 

[Notch7]

Farage has spent his career influencing politics from the sidelines without any responsibility for delivering

Farage as an MEP never bothered attending fisheries committe
Farage as an MP for Clacton has never bothered to actually do anything for the town
Farage as an elected MP hardly ever turns up to HoC

the lazy inefficient Farage is claiming Reform will be cutting waste and inefficiency…...if they were serious they should sack Farage.