War Crimes...

[Odds]

Unlike many other countries, including the US and France, the UK has no parliamentary oversight of its elite special forces regiments. Strategic responsibility for their actions falls ultimately to the prime minister, along with the defence secretary and head of special forces.

Maybe it's time for parliamentary oversight to be extended during a time of war in order to ensure the armed forces are complying with the rules of war?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

There is no refusal as an enquiry is ongoing.

With a very tight terms of reference, i.e. only Afghanistan and only 2010 to 2013.
And it took 10 years of lobbying to get it underway.

This inquiry, chaired by Lord Justice Sir Charles Haddon-Cave, focuses on allegations related to UK Special Forces and the adequacy of subsequent investigations. The inquiry aims to uncover the truth behind claims of extrajudicial killings, cover-ups, and systemic failures in military oversight, including whether UK forces breached international law and whether victims' rights were denied, according to Action on Armed Violence.

 

[Notch7]

Immigrants have clogged up the NHS

You’ve clearly never been in hospital.

I can tell you that hospitals are clogged up with the elderly


Immigrants are mostly younger people and they aren’t in hospital.

Of course there are an awful lots of immigrants that work in NHS and care homes looking after British people……perhaps those immigrants should go home.

 

[gas112]

So faced with a platoon etc of hitler youth aka 14 year olds possibly younger i take it some in here would say it would have been wrong to shoot them . Maybe just asked them nicely to put their guns down and go home

 

[gas112]

Of course there are an awful lots of immigrants that work in NHS and care homes looking after British people……perhaps those immigrants should go home.

You mean those immigrants that followed the rules and paid their dues in gaining entry

 

[Deleted member 323070]

So faced with a platoon etc of hitler youth aka 14 year olds possibly younger i take it some in here would say it would have been wrong to shoot them . Maybe just asked them nicely to put their guns down and go home

Typical resort to the extreme scenario.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

You mean those immigrants that followed the rules and paid their dues in gaining entry

Asylum Seekers are not allowed to work.
I thought everyone was aware of that.

 

[gas112]

Typical resort to the extreme scenario.

what is extreme about that scenario about a movement numbering hundreds of thousands
At least 20, 000 hitler youth took part in the attempt to repulse D Day and guess what they took part in war crimes

 

[Odds]

what is extreme about that scenario about a movement numbering hundreds of thousands
At least 20, 000 hitler youth took part in the attempt to repulse D Day and guess what they took part in war crimes

They joined the HY voluntarily.
The SF stand accused of shooting children in their homes.

Can you spot the difference?

 

[gas112]

They joined the HY voluntarily.
The SF stand accused of shooting children in their homes.

Can you spot the difference?

oh i see no militia kids took their weapons inside and slept with them they left them at the front door

 

[Odds]

oh i see no militia kids took their weapons inside and slept with them they left them at the front door

To avoid scrutiny of the killings, eyewitnesses said, members of the SAS and SBS would plant so-called "drop weapons" on the bodies of the dead, to make it look as though they had been armed in the photographs routinely taken by special forces teams at the scene..."There was a fake grenade they'd take with them onto target, it couldn't detonate," said a former SAS operator. Another veteran said operators would carry AK-47 rifles which had a folding stock because they were easier to fit into their rucksacks and "easier to bring onto a target and plant by a body".

 

[denso13]

oh i see no militia kids took their weapons inside and slept with them they left them at the front door

It's ex special forces who have claimed their colleagues committed war crimes. I think they know better than you, they were there.

 

[Notch7]

And the way to stop it happening is to bring the full weight of the law (International, domestic and military) down on the perpetrators, and pay recompense to the victims' families.
Sweeping it under the carpet, ignoring it, pretending it didn't happen, kicking it do

I did not suggest sweeping it under the carpet, did I?

Years of legal action against vets won’t stop it happening, that’s more likely to make soldiers scared to fight and discourage people from joining the military

The money would be better spent on looking at why it happened and improving discipline in the field if that’s the cause.

 

[Brigadier]

To avoid scrutiny of the killings, eyewitnesses said, members of the SAS and SBS would plant so-called "drop weapons" on the bodies of the dead, to make it look as though they had been armed in the photographs routinely taken by special forces teams at the scene..."There was a fake grenade they'd take with them onto target, it couldn't detonate," said a former SAS operator. Another veteran said operators would carry AK-47 rifles which had a folding stock because they were easier to fit into their rucksacks and "easier to bring onto a target and plant by a body".

I don't know why, but this put me in mind of a scam that went off on a housing estate, that was under the control of a client for which we worked.

Basically, the client's teams would go into properties to do repairs, refurbs., upgrades and the like.

Tenants would sometimes claim for damage purportedly done by the teams; scratched white goods, that sort of thing.

The client would occasionally send someone round to assess, but pay up anyway (the claiming tenants were often the sort who would get pretty gobby, and it was easier to just pay out and get out).

After the umpteenth claim however, one of the assessors went out to yet another fridge-freezer claim.
While the tenant was out of sight, he scratched his initials onto the knackered appliance, where no-one would see.
Claim paid out.

Guess what was claimed for, at the next property where the team had been?........................

 

[gas112]

It's ex special forces who have claimed their colleagues committed war crimes. I think they know better than you, they were there.

And at present all they are is allegations and can you quote me saying killing innocents is right. I am pointing out age and situation doesn't always make someone innocent