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Inheritance tax.

so you think your premium bond winnings should be taxed ?


It's a good point, but is specifically - like the Lottery, and ISAs - set up so as not to be.

So, in answer to your question, no.
And if they were, I suspect many - myself included - would rethink whether we'd hold them.
 
It's a good point, but is specifically - like the Lottery, and ISAs - set up so as not to be.

So, in answer to your question, no.
And if they were, I suspect many - myself included - would rethink whether we'd hold them.
But its un earned income thought you said tax should be paid on that ... I must have miss read that ;)
 
But its un earned income thought you said tax should be paid on that ... I must have miss read that ;)

The subject under discussion was IHT.

You can try to string this out for page upon page if you like, but it won't be with me. I answered honestly in post 152(y)
 
The subject under discussion was IHT.

You can try to string this out for page upon page if you like, but it won't be with me. I answered honestly in post 152(y)
ok so its basically a case of you want tax paid on un earned income that doesnt apply to you, but any unearned income that does apply to you then you are happy for this to be tax free . Glad thats cleared up
 
The issue with IHT that people don't like is that while the person is alive they are free to give their assets as they like without tax. But sensible people don't want to give assets that they might need to use for their elderly care. So they are punished with IHT, as a result of trying not to be a burden on the state.
 
ok so its basically a case of you want tax paid on un earned income that doesnt apply to you, but any unearned income that does apply to you then you are happy for this to be tax free . Glad thats cleared up
I wouldn't mind that set up Haha selfish git I am ;-)
 
The issue with IHT that people don't like is that while the person is alive they are free to give their assets as they like without tax. But sensible people don't want to give assets that they might need to use for their elderly care. So they are punished with IHT, as a result of trying not to be a burden on the state.
And there lies one of the problems you look after your money don't squander it . Want to give family a good start in life but may have to use the majority of that money on care . Where as you see people basically same jobs opportunities in life etc who have spent it on whatever and get the care for basically free. Pre emptied that and made sure one helluva substantial figure will not be touched in anyway for that.
 
Neither of us have been ambiguous.

I think unearned income is worthy of taxation at least equal to that of earned income.

You do not.

There is no ambiguity there.
When it comes to inheritance, I tend to think the other way. Whether £1 or £100,000,000 is left to family, there should be zero tax on any of it.

I don't have kids, but let's say I did. I've worked hard all my life, managed to buy a nice property that's appreciated quite a lot in value. I've also accrued quite a decent investment portfolio.

Why should any of that be liable for taxation if left to my kids? It's money and/or value that only exists through my previous endeavours over past decades.
 
When it comes to inheritance, I tend to think the other way. Whether £1 or £100,000,000 is left to family, there should be zero tax on any of it.

I don't have kids, but let's say I did. I've worked hard all my life, managed to buy a nice property that's appreciated quite a lot in value. I've also accrued quite a decent investment portfolio.

Why should any of that be liable for taxation if left to my kids? It's money and/or value that only exists through my previous endeavours over past decades.

Everyone can always make a case for why certain things shouldn't be taxed. People could argue that there shouldn't be income tax, because why shouldn't somebody keep every penny they have worked hard for.

There are various arguments that handing down generational wealth is bad for the country.
 
When it comes to inheritance, I tend to think the other way. Whether £1 or £100,000,000 is left to family, there should be zero tax on any of it.

I don't have kids, but let's say I did. I've worked hard all my life, managed to buy a nice property that's appreciated quite a lot in value. I've also accrued quite a decent investment portfolio.

Why should any of that be liable for taxation if left to my kids? It's money and/or value that only exists through my previous endeavours over past decades.

Say that happens.

Say your kids are lazy tw@ts, but don't spunk all of it.

What endeavour or graft did they put in, when the time comes to pass on "their" wealth?
 
Say that happens.

Say your kids are lazy tw@ts, but don't spunk all of it.

What endeavour or graft did they put in, when the time comes to pass on "their" wealth?
I don't have any issue with families where, generation after generation, they live off inherited wealth. And I don't think it's right from generation to generation to say 'thank you, we'll take x% in taxes.'

I agree with some taxes, but ones like CGT and IHT, nope. Never.
 
At the risk of "doing a Gassy", then, justifying your opposition to IHT via

It's money and/or value that only exists through my previous endeavours over past decades.
doesn't square with
don't have any issue with families where, generation after generation, they live off inherited wealth.


It seems then that a lot of what side of the debate we all fall on is our personal morality and ethics.
 
A friend of mine is giving her 19 year old her house now. Putting it in her name etc....she will still live there though for now....her ex is giving all his money to the 19 year old now too...well, the vast majority of it.
 
A friend of mine is giving her 19 year old her house now. Putting it in her name etc....she will still live there though for now....her ex is giving all his money to the 19 year old now too...well, the vast majority of it.

So deliberate deprivation of assets. This can be investigated and clawed back if the person needs care in later life and IIRC there are tax implications too if the giver still lives in the property after giving it away
 
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