BRINO Deal

[motorbiking]

Anyone done the analysis?

What are we getting?

- Access to eGates? Seems unclear
- Less checks on goods, not sure what "less" is

I can see the EU gets to drain our waters for another 12 years.

A lot of people getting excited and a lot of others getting angry.

Personally I always thought we'd do a BRINO, so I am not too bothered about softening the deal.

 

[blup]

Anyone done the analysis?

What are we getting?

- Access to eGates? Seems unclear
- Less checks on goods, not sure what "less" is

I can see the EU gets to drain our waters for another 12 years.

A lot of people getting excited and a lot of others getting angry.

Personally I always thought we'd do a BRINO, so I am not too bothered about softening the deal.

What’s in it for you?

 

[motorbiking]

Nothing as far as I can see. Maybe fewer stamps in my passport - I don't think Schengen time limit extension was on the table. That would have been useful.

 

[Notch7]

Brexit is a total and utter failure

 

[Notch7]

I can see the EU gets to drain our waters for another 12 years

thats a false interpretation

as usual, lies from a brexer

 

[fillyboy]

 

[ReganAndCarter]

I can see the EU gets to drain our waters for another 12 years.

Not sure how true it is, but remember hearing that the EU fishermen catch types of fish that Brits aren't keen on. So they're mainly taking fish we don't want.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Hmm. EU or Starmer's Labour making decisions for us and controlling some regulations. Hard choice!

 

[motorbiking]

thats a false interpretation

as usual, lies from a brexer

Before you start making false allegations, about what I wanted to happen. Perhaps you can tell me the caps that they have agreed to?

 

[ellal]

Perhaps you can tell me the caps that they have agreed to?

This might help

Link

In essence:

"Brexit meant the UK and EU had to come to a new agreement on access to each other’s fishing stocks. The UK initially wanted the EU to give up 80% of its existing catch share in UK waters, which the EU countered with an offer of 15-18% (having initially argued for a maintenance of the status quo).

Ultimately, the two sides agreed that the EU would return 25% of its catch share, phased in over five and a half years. That amounts to an increase of under 10% to the UK’s catch share within its own waters, with the biggest increases concentrated in a few large offshore fisheries like western mackerel and North Sea herring and sole. Overall, the EU has seen its quota shares reduced in 55 of 87 shared stocks"

What is also often overlooked is that a considerable percentage of uk fishing quotas were sold by uk fishermen to EU countries...

"It is known that foreign ownership of fishing rights is widespread – at a conservative estimate, around 20 per cent of English and Welsh fishing rights are owned by a handful of Spanish, Dutch and Icelandic companies, although this number could be higher"

And it is also a fact that over the decades smaller scale uk quotas were sold out to multinationals and large scale fishing operations...

It isn't the EU per se that has been the biggest threat to uk fishermen!

 

[transam]

All a load of waffle

Deal seems to be a turkey
The phrase working towards is used a lot
French scoundrels have set out to destroy the Uk
Fishing industry and Starmer bent over to accommodate Macron

 

[motorbiking]

I'm genuinely waiting to understand what we got?

 

[blup]

Hmm. EU or Starmer's Labour making decisions for us and controlling some regulations. Hard choice!

It’s a trade deal and quite usual for the weaker party to be a rule taker. Look at Amazons or Ryanairs ts and cs and try and negotiate them.

 

[Notch7]

A BRINO deal means being inside the Single Market but not in the EU, Farage in 2016 was talking about how great a Norway deal would be. That was BRINO

Being outside the SM and CU is not BRINO whatever.

Motorbiking is being disingenuous

 

[ellal]

I'm genuinely waiting to understand what we got?

Removal of red tape and restrictions to trade...

Plus of course more importantly hope of better things to come