Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Notch7]

Voting green or libbdem as a protest is like voting re form as a protest. Policies become increasingly irrelevant, so you get Nige knocking back pints in Clapton and Edd Davey falling off canoes in the Lake District.

I thought Ed Davey played a blinder during the GE.....it was a very very dull campaign and Lib Dems never get much media coverage anyway so why the hell not do some bungee jumping / white water rafting

 

[Notch7]

OMG....mororbiking has the patience of a saint....

if he gave up telling lies and admitted the rules dont say what he claims we wouldnt have to keep correcting him

I dont see why people like Motorbiking should be allowed to keep posting endless misinformation and get away with it.

 

[fillyboy]

Is a refugee, or 10 of them, 25? 50? a risk to UK's peace, good order or security?

Iranian men charged with spying offences in UK were asylum seekers who arrived by small boats and lorry

The trio are accused of engaging in conduct likely to assist a foreign intelligence service - with police saying the charges relate to Iran.

news.sky.com

 

[Mottie]

Any vessel carrying more than 12 passengers is a commercial vessel and must comply with commercial regulations. All vessels must file before departure and report prior to crossing at the 12 mile limit. Which in dover/caliais is still in French waters.

It will therefore be obvious that a boat looking like this heading for UK waters, that is not transmitting AIS, has not filed paperwork and has not called in at the 12 mile limit. is.... not an engaged in innocent passage.

All it would take would be some fishing net or rope dropped in front of that to jam the propellor, boat in distress, towed back to safety. In France. Job done.

 

[denso13]

boat in distress, towed back to safety. In France.

By the French maybe, not allowed by us without agreement.

They wouldn't take kindly to us sabotaging boats in their waters I bet.

 

[motorbiking]

But people who make the Channel crossing are protected by international law if they claim asylum once they arrive.

The goal is to stop them arriving in UK territory.

Obviously you've never tried to push a boat while at sea. That's why they're taken 'in tow'
It's extremely easy to capsize another boat by pushing it, especially from a side.

it would be no less stable.

And the small boat arrivals have access to various pieces of equipment, various agreements, etc.

Only those defending the border need to know where it is.

There's no such thing as a 'take back'. It's a new invention of yours.
It's all push back. Unless you are referring to one country accepting refugees back.
'Take back' means the country that is doing the taking, is the country that is accepting the refugees back.

Call it what you want but rounding people up and taking them back to another country is not legal
Pushing them back to prevent them entering your territory- legal

 

[motorbiking]

By the French maybe, not allowed by us without agreement.

nonsense. SOLAS reg 33

 

[MNW67]

They wouldn't take kindly to us sabotaging boats in their waters I bet.

A bit rich after what they did in New Zealand

 

[motorbiking]

if he gave up telling lies and admitted the rules dont say what he claims we wouldnt have to keep correcting him

I dont see why people like Motorbiking should be allowed to keep posting endless misinformation and get away with it.

the one telling lies is you and your feeble atempt to call my posts misinformation is dishonest.

What does Notch do when he's lost the argument - try to get the thread locked or deleted. Shameful.

 

[denso13]

A bit rich after what they did in New Zealand

Scoundrels...

 

[Notch7]

All it would take would be some fishing net or rope dropped in front of that to jam the propellor, boat in distress, towed back to safety. In France. Job done.

you cant take it back to France without agreement

 

[Highway Man]

you cant take it back to France without agreement

they have no choice with the propellor jammed with a piece of french rope

 

[motorbiking]

you cant take it back to France without agreement

So just leave it drifting about until people start drowning?

Give your head a shake

 

[Notch7]

nonsense. SOLAS reg 33

nowhere in SOLAS reg 33 does it state France have to take them

please show me the actual words which prove what you claim

 

[denso13]

they have no choice with the propellor jammed with a piece of french rope

So you deliberately put the boat in a distress situation, in French waters, all so you can take them back to France, who will welcome you with open arms?

Ok.