Pensioner Winter Fuel Payment - I just don't get it?

[Notch7]

stupid NI increase

So you giving money to NHS to reduce waiting lists which will help get people back to work is stupid

employee rights

So you don’t agree with wanting stronger rights for British workers.

 

[Trazor]

Elton and Mick will be furious.

 

[Murdochcat]

Imho setting the threshold at £35k is pure dumb move by Labour, almost as daft as taking it away in the first place.

£20k would have been a more sensible number

 

[motorbiking]

We wouldn't have needed an NI increase if the last government hadn't salted the earth with their unfunded NI cuts. Sensible politics has become almost impossible.

Increasing taxes can have an effect of reducing tax receipts.

 

[MNW67]

Imho setting the threshold at £35k is pure dumb move by Labour, almost as daft as taking it away in the first place.

£20k would have been a more sensible number

I think at £20k we would still have had plenty of Mail and Telegraph stories about pensioners freezing to death. The £35k limit should avoid that. But still a massive own goal all round!

 

[Mottie]

So you giving money to NHS to reduce waiting lists which will help get people back to work is stupid

What have the waiting lists come down to then - any proof of that?

So you don’t agree with wanting stronger rights for British workers.

'Day 1 rights?' No, I don’t agree with them. It’s putting employers off of taking people on.

 

[MNW67]

Increasing taxes can have an effect of reducing tax receipts.

Maybe. The sensible policy would have been to put the employee NI back up, because it was completely unfunded. But that would have been politically impossible. There is no doubt we are in a huge mess. The public are no longer able to discuss hard choices rationally.

 

[JohnD]

People who have paid lots of tax all their lives, now pay more tax.

Actually,

People who have earned lots of money

And people who have lots of money

Tend to pay more tax than poor people who haven't.

No surprise there.


Very few prosperous people choose to follow Jesus' advice.
(Matthew 19:21-23)

 

[JohnD]

Increasing taxes can have an effect of reducing tax receipts.

That's a story rich people like to put about when they are trying to persuade politicians to give them more loopholes and an easy ride.

Funnily enough, decreasing taxes can also have an effect of reducing tax receipts.

They don't often mention that.

 

[JohnD]

It’s putting employers off of taking people on.

The employer class is always opposed to workers rights, minimum wage, etc.

 

[motorbiking]

The employer class is always opposed to workers rights, minimum wage, etc.

The employer class?

 

[pete01]

Elton and Mick will be furious.

Who?

 

[pete01]

Imho setting the threshold at £35k is pure dumb move by Labour, almost as daft as taking it away in the first place.

£20k would have been a more sensible number

His aunt Mavis probably earns 34k

 

[foxhole]

I am happy for me .

 

[MNW67]

Who?

No, that's Roger and Pete.