Iran

[Vinty]

Whilst I always welcome the opinion of a Paddystinian I think you're wide of the mark here, the Iranian people are desperate for regime change.

It isn't about nuclear weapons .
It's scaremongering, Trump and Netanyahu are just another version of Blair and Bush.
The dispute about Irans nuclear programme had been sorted, Trump tore up that agreement, Iran has been supporting Hamas and Hezbollah both politically and with weapons, that is the real reason for the war against Iran.

 

[fillyboy]

Iran has been supporting Hamas and Hezbollah both politically and with weapons, that is the real reason for the war against Iran.

And the Houthi's, don't forget them.

 

[Vinty]

Looks like Scumbag Starmer is sending British forces to Iraq and Syria.
Tony Blair isn't even dead yet but Starmer seems determined to steal his identity.
Starmers own country is falling apart and overrun with hordes of illegals but he can't wait to get involved in someone else's war, how is Starmer going to force the Arabs to take him seriously, stop their winter fuel allowance maybe, Lol.

 

[fillyboy]

how is Starmer going to force the Arabs to take him seriously, stop their winter fuel allowance maybe, Lol.

I expect he'll tell them his father was a toolmaker.

 

[transam]

This reckoning with Iran by Israel was always going to happen one way or another

It is / was an absolute certainty

 

[Vinty]

And the prospect of Israel being obliterated and all the inhabitants killed. That's precisely why Israel doesn't want Iran to get the bomb.

Trying to stop the spread of nuclear weapons is like trying to stop the spread of gunpowder or firearms.
The knowledge is out there, if the Pakistanis can build a nuclear bomb,then any country can, and it doesn't need to be delivered by a missile, it could be in the back of a lorry driven by some fanatical terrorist group.
America and Israel have turned the Middle East upside down with their antics.
It is only a matter of time before something catastrophic happens.

 

[Highway Man]

This reckoning with Iran by Israel was always going to happen one way or another

It is / was an absolute certainty

It certainly was, The Israeli's have been practicing this air assault for years. They will turn Iran. into a carpark by air, then mop up the rest of the regime by land.

 

[Vinty]

You know their more responsible than that.

it's the way you tell them.

 

[Vinty]

The justification for countries who have nuclear weapons is that they are a 'deterrent'...

It isn't really about nuclear weapons, its just an excuse for regime change.
The Iranians were open to a deal about their nuclear programme, they already had a deal in place and Trump tore it up.
Trump and Netanyahu are just another reincarnation of Bushand Blair albeit a more evil reincarnation.
It's the same playbook, scare the public with stories of "an Iranian nuke" this justifies aggression towards in Iran.

At the root of this conflict is Israel's desire to defeat the Palestinians and to achieve that goal, Iran has to be taken out to further isolate the Palestinians will to resist.
America's dog in the fight is the desire to take over where the British and French left off Middle East, defending Israel is a handy excuse to justify their military presence in the region.

 

[transam]

It certainly was, The Israeli's have been practicing this air assault for years. They will turn Iran. into a carpark by air, then mop up the rest of the regime by land.

Unlikely ground troops will be used imo

Highly un likely

 

[fillyboy]

it's the way you tell them.

It's a cracker.

 

[fillyboy]

It isn't really about nuclear weapons, its just an excuse for regime change.
The Iranians were open to a deal about their nuclear programme, they already had a deal in place and Trump tore it up.
Trump and Netanyahu are just another reincarnation of Bushand Blair albeit a more evil reincarnation.
It's the same playbook, scare the public with stories of "an Iranian nuke" this justifies aggression towards in Iran.

At the root of this conflict is Israel's desire to defeat the Palestinians and to achieve that goal, Iran has to be taken out to further isolate the Palestinians will to resist.
America's dog in the fight is the desire to take over where the British and French left off Middle East, defending Israel is a handy excuse to justify their military presence in the region.

The original deal was a crap deal, even the EU admitted it was a crap deal, Trump tore it up, Biden reinstated it, Trump tore it up again. The jist of the early deals was that nuclear weapons would be delayed by a year or two, or three.

Look, Egypt are currently holding back a massive convoy of miscreants from reaching Gaza, Jordan have been shooting down rockets aimed at Israel from Iran, The Saudis are behind Israel but have to walk a tightrope with what they say publicly, although they make no attempt to conceal their opinion of the Ayatollahs.

The Middle East is going through a major change for the better, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis will be starved of funds and weapons, a new axis of power involving Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and Saudi will prevail.

What happens to the Palestinians?, it's up to them, it's their call.

 

[securespark]

I don't get why we are all happy as Larry that countries like Russia and NK have nuclear weapons, then freak out that Iran do.

 

[Highway Man]

I don't get why we are all happy as Larry that countries like Russia and NK have nuclear weapons, then freak out that Iran do.

Completely different countries with totally different ideals, Russia is not the fruitcakes people on here think that they are. North Korea do not have the capability of striking the UK. or U.S with nukes yet. Iran is extreme Shia muslim and it is not a country that you would want to hold nuclear weapons. A regime change from within is needed therefore Israel is going to go for this. The majority of Iranians are terrified to speak out and would most certainly want to rise up if Israel can weaken the current regime.

 

[JP_]

It's distraction. Nothing much will come of Israel-Iran, but by the time it is finished, Gaza will be gone.