Labours definition of a working person.

[Mottie]

Just listening to Darren Jones being interviewed on breakfast news. Of course, he wouldn’t answer a single question about the obvious tax rises that are coming in the budget. The interviewer reminded him of labours pledge of not to increase tax for working people and asked him what labours definition of a working person is. The answer: Anyone that gets a wage slip. Off the top of my head, that’s Pensioners, those who are paid by dividends and the self employed that won’t come under that definition. Who else?

 

[motorbiking]

I would guess that Reeves is out and her replacement will increase taxes.

Capital gains will go up. They may even lower the income tax threshold.

I listened to a bunch of “millionaires” worth less than £10m argue for a wealth tax on assets worth over £10m.

Labour voters, like higher taxes for other people.

They call it chipping in.

 

[Odds]

[They] “know exactly who they are,” according to Sir Keir on Monday, who pledged to "protect their payslips".

Last week, (October 2024) he went into more detail, defining it as someone who “goes out and earns their living, usually paid in a sort of monthly cheque" and who can't "write a cheque to get out of difficulties."

Sir Keir's spokesman clarified that those with a "small amount of savings" could still be defined as working people. This could include cash savings, or stocks and shares in a tax-free Individual Savings Accounts (ISA), he suggested.

Rachel Reeves had a different definition. Working people are "strivers who graft", according to the chancellor.

I'd say someone who works long hours in order to make a profit for somebody else.

 

[MNW67]

We have been in a real mess for many years now. The public want the government to provide certain things. We can no longer raise enough tax. Every political party lies about it.

 

[motorbiking]

A government can always raise taxes. Doesn’t mean their income goes up.

Every increase in public spending makes Britain less competitive.

 

[Mottie]

Capital gains will go up.

That’s a cert. I’m glad we sold our workshop in March this year.

 

[Odds]

A government can always raise taxes. Doesn’t mean their income goes up.

Every increase in public spending makes Britain less competitive.

A typical view from the man enjoying his playboy lifestyle aboard his private yacht...

It doesn't necessarily mean it goes down either.

 

[motorbiking]

A typical view from the man enjoying his playboy lifestyle aboard his private yacht...

It doesn't necessarily mean it goes down either.

There is no argument that it fell £1Bn as a result of the increase.

 

[Murdochcat]

Darren Jones is an out of touch minister with zero experience of life as most of us lead.

Awful individual and he needs to be reshuffled OUT

 

[motorbiking]

Apart from a couple of years as a legal consultant seconded to BT and RWE, he's been a professional politician.

 

[Murdochcat]

Apart from a couple of years as a legal consultant seconded to BT and RWE, he's been a professional politician.

Precisely why he’s totally unsuitable to be an MP let alone a Minister

 

[diy_fun_uk]

It's no coincidence when you speak to people who have worked in sectors like education or health for decades, they can reel off all the 'transformations' the sector has been through, usually one every few years or so. Each change led by government to improve things, in actuality invariably leading to things becoming worse in some way.

When it comes to government ministers, if in reality much of the decisions within their departments come from them (as opposed to the bods working in said department) then it's no wonder things don't improve year on year, given they (usually?) have zero experience of the sector they're minister for.

There again, there are always exceptions. Look at the awesome job Ed Miliband's doing ...

 

[motorbiking]

It's no coincidence when you speak to people who have worked in sectors like education or health for decades, they can reel off all the 'transformations' the sector has been through, usually one every few years or so. Each change led by government to improve things, in actuality invariably leading to things becoming worse in some way.

When it comes to government ministers, if in reality much of the decisions within their departments come from them (as opposed to the bods working in said department) then it's no wonder things don't improve year on year, given they (usually?) have zero experience of the sector they're minister for.

There again, there are always exceptions. Look at the awesome job Ed Miliband's doing ...

what's he doing?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

what's he doing?

You do understand sarcasm, right? Indicated by the trailing dots ending my post.

 

[Odds]

You do understand sarcasm, right? Indicated by the trailing dots ending my post.

Witch usually means things unsaid that can be deduced from the context of the sentence - where is the sarcasm in the following sentence?

here again, there are always exceptions. Look at the awesome job Ed Miliband's doing ...

The reader would have to bee aware of your right-wing tendency to deploy sarcasm at the expense of a Labour minister trying to do a difficult job.