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Drain - Sigh

You're unlikely to damage any pipes with a spade.

You can, a spade would soon chop through a plastic service if you were to strike it hard enough. I've even seen a couple of Fella's trying to expose a gas service so the Machine Driver could see it, one put the prong of his Fork straight through it.

Luckily the Machine driver had some Insulation tape in the Cab so they could repair it.
 
Hitting a Gas service outside, provided there's no naked flame nearby, isn't in itself, particularly dangerous, the gas is still at fairly low pressure and a temporary cap can be created with something to hand, have seen Denso Tape, Broom Handles, and even some clay from the digging used.

Hit something with a bit more oomph though and it can get nasty, couple of Guys from SGN were seriously injured after a main was hit by a third party and they were tasked with dealing with it. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-46136204

Electric will make you jump too.

Damaging either at best will be expensive. Hit a Fibre Optic and you may as well sell the house.
 
I've hand-dug out about 10m each of our blue plastic water supply pipe and black rubber electric supply cable, I had to follow them back from the house to work out where the heck they came from so I could check I wasn't building on top of either of them.

I used a spade, two arms and common sense. Nothing exploded and nobody died. I don't have any qualifications in digging science, I'm a complete amateur.

I'm assuming the muppets from the BBC article weren't using a spade but a digger. Obviously there are tales of all sorts of issues, but they're not normally caused by someone carefully trowelling and digging around a drain by hand.

This is all starting to sound like tradesmen trying to scare people off, on a DIY forum ironically.
 
This is all starting to sound like tradesmen trying to scare people off, on a DIY forum ironically.
No-ones trying to scare anyone off, but there are too many who watch a video on U Tube and think they know it all. Whilst most of us with experience know where the hazards may lie and work around them, the old saying 'A little knowledge is dangerous' comes into play and folks wanting to save a few £ go headlong into something without thinking. Until it all goes horribly wrong.

I came within a whisker of going through the Gas Service at my Parents property a few years ago, breaking out the old Driveway to block pave it, the pipe was literally just below the Macadam. As we were exercising caution until we knew where the services ran, we missed it, had I gone straight in with the Jackhammer I'd have chopped straight through it.
 
I was thinking of planting a rose bush. Having read all the worrying warnings here I'm now going to have a full scan and apply for all utility network maps. Obviously I'll get a professional to do the actual digging, I don't want to risk getting engulfed in a fireball.

Sigh, indeed.
 
I was thinking of planting a rose bush. Having read all the worrying warnings here I'm now going to have a full scan and apply for all utility network maps. Obviously I'll get a professional to do the actual digging, I don't want to risk getting engulfed in a fireball.

Sigh, indeed.
It does sound dramatic and scaremongering. But some of the most miserable times I've had are when a dig has gone wrong. I think what folk are saying is be cautious especially with gear surrounded in concrete. Its easy to get carried away with a pecker and gas and water have surprisingly little resistance from a determined attacker. This gas pipe was only just below the surface and was partially embedded in the post concrete.



 
None of us here have any knowledge of the surroundings. If it's soil then it's perfectly safe to dig, carefully by hand, to see what's there.

I never suggested blindly ramming power tools in, as appears to have happened above. Perhaps delicate digging with care is a lost art?
 

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