Net Zero Rollback

[wobs]

And then there is carbon credits trading --- what BS

All relates to the polluter pays principle. Why do you have a problem with that?

 

[wobs]

If the world is "burning" "existential threat to the human race" ETC then why the heck are we being charged VAT on all the measures we can do to install carbon saving stuff in our homes and also extra luxury car tax on EV cars. --- That is the scam -- feel scammed yet. -

I agree that we shouldn't pay VAT on carbon saving stuff such as solar panels, or use the VAT paid on it to offset the cost elsewhere for it. Either way, there should be an incentive.

In fact many items are exempt from VAT but there's room for improvement:

VAT on energy-saving products​

You’ll pay a rate of either 5% or 0% VAT when certain energy-saving products are installed in your home if you’re eligible.
Not all products or installations qualify for the lower rate and you cannot buy or install them yourself.
Your installer will be responsible for charging you the correct rate of VAT.
The rate you pay and your eligibility depends on whether you are in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) or Northern Ireland.

If you’re in Great Britain​

You’ll pay a rate of 0% VAT on both:

• certain products supplied by your installer
• the cost of all work to install those products in your home

Tax on shopping and services

VAT and other taxes on shopping and services, including tax-free shopping, energy-saving equipment and mobility aids.

www.gov.uk

On the other side, high carbon footprint things such as beef should be a luxury, with a carbon tax that reflects their carbon footprint..

 

[aveatry]

On the other side, high carbon footprint things such as beef should be a luxury, with a carbon tax that reflects their carbon footprint..

Tell us you are well off without telling us you are well off --- it already is a luxury for some.
Might want to target the soya curd eating net zero Zealots for cutting down rain forest and planting soya. Then do the same for E10

 

[aveatry]

I agree that we shouldn't pay VAT on carbon saving stuff such as solar panels, or use the VAT paid on it to offset the cost elsewhere for it. Either way, there should be an incentive.

In fact many items are exempt from VAT but there's room for improvement:

VAT on energy-saving products​

You’ll pay a rate of either 5% or 0% VAT when certain energy-saving products are installed in your home if you’re eligible.
Not all products or installations qualify for the lower rate and you cannot buy or install them yourself.
Your installer will be responsible for charging you the correct rate of VAT.
The rate you pay and your eligibility depends on whether you are in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) or Northern Ireland.

If you’re in Great Britain​

You’ll pay a rate of 0% VAT on both:

• certain products supplied by your installer
• the cost of all work to install those products in your home

Tax on shopping and services

VAT and other taxes on shopping and services, including tax-free shopping, energy-saving equipment and mobility aids.

www.gov.uk

When it comes to the need to install bigger rads for heatpump to work - none of that "secondary" work is included.

 

[MNW67]

Tell us you are well off without telling us you are well off --- it already is a luxury for some.
Might want to target the soya curd eating net zero Zealots for cutting down rain forest and planting soya. Then do the same for E10

What is the carbon footprint of little piggy wigs.

EDIT:

I've just Googled, and apparently it is 6.5 times lower than cows.

I didn't know that!

 

[Londoner2]

Cutting through the whatabouttry and the whatiffery on this topic its looking very likely net zero will be drastically reduced by a new labour leader who will replace Starmer before election and abolished by Reform and Conservatives completely.

 

[aveatry]

I didn't know that!

 

[aveatry]

Cutting through the whatabouttry and the whatiffery on this topic its looking very likely net zero will be drastically reduced by a new labour leader who will replace Starmer before election and abolished by Reform and Conservatives completely.

So the world isn’t burning any more - and the existential threat to existence of the human race has gone -- They have been pushing this BS down our necks for ages now all of a sudden its in the bin --- feel scammed yet

 

[transam]

Yes.

That pretty much f ed up carmans potential argument

 

[noseall]

feel scammed yet

Only you boyo.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

That pretty much f ed up carmans potential argument

Only if you don't care how you leave the planet for your own offspring.

 

[transam]

Only if you don't care how you leave the planet for your own offspring.

Yeah like you do

U are all p*** and wind and a hypocrite

You do f all
Of consequence

 

[pete01]

Yeah like you do

U are all p*** and wind and a hypocrite

You do f all
Of consequence

Didn't realise you knew him so well.....

 

[aveatry]

Only you boyo.

Here comes the biggest climate hypocrite on the forum -

 

[aveatry]

Cut and pasted but hey what does ofgem know . From earlier this year .
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A higher proportion of electricity-only bills are accounted for by Net Zero-related costs than for a dual fuel bill.

Our analysis of Ofgem’s figures shows that approximately 20% of a typical household’s electricity-only bill is accounted for by the costs it says can be considered Net Zero related—up from around 19% under the previous two electricity-only price caps.

These costs accounted for approximately 32% of the increase to a typical household’s electricity-only bill in April. The electricity-only price cap subsequently decreased by £44 in July, though Net Zero-related costs increased by £1.

Yep straight into the pockets of dale vince - who then uses it to pay nutters to lay in the road for him and stop traffic to force the government to tax us even more - so more of that tax can go into the multimillionaires pockets the whole climate con is making the rich richer and the poor poorer.