Flag dynamics

[Odds]

Have you not looked up who is allegedly behind it all?

Not a very nice person by all accounts. But people seem to be supporting him .

According to the research group Hope Not Hate, Operation Raise the Colours was co-founded by Andrew Currien, otherwise known as Andy Saxon, who has allegedly had links with the English Defence League and Britain First.

Their website is 'temporarily unavailable' after a security incident.

 

[Odds]

Operation Raise the Colours, meanwhile, has accepted funds from Britain First. Both groups project themselves as patriotic volunteers — yet their networks, funding, and messaging bear the hallmarks of orchestrated influence campaigns. And the men leading them are hardly ordinary citizens. Moulton, for example, runs Geocapita, a think tank claiming to advise world leaders on intelligence, and Oberion Group, a defence and data-intelligence firm based in Cyprus. These are not typical credentials for a local activist.

Currien, by contrast, comes directly from Britain’s far-right underworld: a long-time associate of Tommy Robinson, he has provided security for Britain First and was convicted for his role in a racist attack that killed a Black man. TRTworld

 

[carmanmemoranda]

People are more likely to believe things when they find them out for themselves.

Some refuse to look, so they can just disagree with what somebody tells them.

Not difficult to find out though

 

[Highway Man]

"Flag Force UK" in Yorkshire. But nobody knows who they are. I work on them daily and have never seen anyone hanging them. If you try to take them down (and we have) you quickly get surrounded by groups of people so they have to be local to the area.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

"Flag Force UK" in Yorkshire. But nobody knows who they are. I work on them daily and have never seen anyone hanging them. If you try to take them down (and we have) you quickly get surrounded by groups of people so they have to be local to the area.

Odds has given you a head start

 

[Odds]

They're easily swayed by newspaper headlines and Farage's matey bloke-down-the-pub image while distracted from the real movers and shakers who hide in the shadows. Nobody fully explained the financing for Bre£it, did they? The unsound forces who tore the UK away from the EU are still at work - now intent on taking us out of the ECHR.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

They're easily swayed by newspaper headlines and Farage's matey bloke-down-the-pub image while distracted from the real movers and shakers who hide in the shadows. Nobody fully explained the financing for Bre£it, did they? The unsound forces who tore the UK away from the EU are still at work - now intent on taking us out of the ECHR.

That involves more than accepting easy slogans though

 

[Odds]

That involves more than accepting easy slogans though

Indeed.

But a good slogan cuts through the hubbub surrounding an issue and tends to sway voters in one direction or another.
Last year - climate change.
This year - illegal migrants.
Next year - the price of fish?

Who can say.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Indeed.

But a good slogan cuts through the hubbub surrounding an issue and tends to sway voters in one direction or another.
Last year - climate change.
This year - illegal migrants.
Next year - the price of fish?

Who can say.

Easy slogans work, can't deny it.

Some clever people create them for that very reason

 

[aveatry]

Operation Raise the Colours, meanwhile, has accepted funds from Britain First. Both groups project themselves as patriotic volunteers — yet their networks, funding, and messaging bear the hallmarks of orchestrated influence campaigns. And the men leading them are hardly ordinary citizens. Moulton, for example, runs Geocapita, a think tank claiming to advise world leaders on intelligence, and Oberion Group, a defence and data-intelligence firm based in Cyprus. These are not typical credentials for a local activist.

Currien, by contrast, comes directly from Britain’s far-right underworld: a long-time associate of Tommy Robinson, he has provided security for Britain First and was convicted for his role in a racist attack that killed a Black man. TRTworld

Have you not looked up who is allegedly behind it all?

Not a very nice person by all accounts. But people seem to be supporting him .

I'm not surprised.

Many people haven't looked behind the surface, or thought about it

Do your own research, make your own mind up.

Sounds like a pile of conspiracy theories - when its just normal people in their own communities, probably using flags that have been in the shed since they brought them for the jubilee and coronation

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Sounds like a pile of conspiracy theories - when its just normal people in their own communities, probably using flags that have been in the shed since they brought them for the jubilee and coronation

Yes, you can ignore facts.

No doubt some flags are people's own. But who is behind the displaying of them ?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I would like to know who is funding these flags because even if you said a fiver for 1 flag, there are thousands of them all over my area.

Michelle Mone was keen to be a supplier but thought she'd better leave it.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

They're easily swayed by newspaper headlines and Farage's matey bloke-down-the-pub image while distracted from the real movers and shakers who hide in the shadows. Nobody fully explained the financing for Bre£it, did they? The unsound forces who tore the UK away from the EU are still at work - now intent on taking us out of the ECHR.

I can imagine him getting in his car after a pub photo op and saying to his driver 'yuck, who drinks that muck?' referring to beer.

Of course, politics is all about image and some seem to fall for that one.

 

[Highway Man]

Odds has given you a head start

You are not suggesting that Nigel is putting them up. OMG

 

[Highway Man]

They're easily swayed by newspaper headlines and Farage's matey bloke-down-the-pub image while distracted from the real movers and shakers who hide in the shadows. Nobody fully explained the financing for Bre£it, did they? The unsound forces who tore the UK away from the EU are still at work - now intent on taking us out of the ECHR.

I do hope so.