Right to protest...

[fillyboy]

No - I didn't remove it.

Some mod who also couldn't see that stating a fact about an organisation does not equate to an expression of support for it did that.

 

[Highway Man]

No - I didn't remove it.

Some mod who also couldn't see that stating a fact about an organisation does not equate to an expression of support for it did that.

I think they called that one right man.

 

[Justin Passing]

There is no coverall right to protest how the hell you like.
Morq you're spouting sh1t about a lot of people..

You call it facts. But society doesn't allow it.
I dunno what you posted but I'd imagine it was bile, coming from you.

Now you're going to attack me but that will not help your argument, will it?

 

[morqthana]

There is no coverall right to protest how the hell you like.

No, but the pendulum has swung way too far in the anti-protesting, pro-oppression direction.

Morq you're spouting sh1t about a lot of people..

Such as?

You call it facts. But society doesn't allow it.

It's a hideously dangerous society which doesn't allow truths to be stated.

I dunno what you posted but I'd imagine it was bile, coming from you.

You need a new imagination - yours is broken.

Now you're going to attack me but that will not help your argument, will it?

It's difficult to see what would help my argument when dealing with someone who criticises what I wrote when he hasn't seen it.

 

[morqthana]

I think they called that one right man.

I'm sure you would, but then you and truth aren't chums, are you.

 

[noseall]

why don't you toddle off and read up on the rules for holding a march and the lawful options plod have.

Where is the rule that says a UK citizen has no right to a peaceful protest (counter or otherwise)?

I'll wait....

 

[Koolpc]

Your grasp on reality seems so shaky, and your ability to understand the most basic things so limited that I wonder if your house is festooned with colour coded ropes so that you can find the routes from one room to another.

I'd ask you to explain how stating a fact about Palestine Action's use of serious violence equates to supporting Hamas, but I fear you wouldn't understand the question.

Wooof!

 

[Koolpc]

Truths?

On GBN?

Don't be silly.

I know you don't care for the truth, or even know what the concept is, but seriously, don't be silly.

You are a sad person....

 

[motorbiking]

Where is the rule that says a UK citizen has no right to a peaceful protest (counter or otherwise)?

I'll wait....

We’re all waiting for you to educate yourself.

Do you think the right to protest is unconditional?

 

[martygturner]

I guess you don't like reminding how pathetically stupid and a predictable failure brexit turned out to be

I think its been brilliant, I mean Nigel said we would'nt get hordes of eastern Europeans coming over here and doing our jobs... now look where we are... we have got afghans, Syrians etc etc etc and the bonus is they will never go home in an economic downturn....

 

[motorbiking]

For the hard of thinking…

No restrictions shall be placed on the exercise of these rights other than such as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others. This Article shall not prevent the imposition of lawful restrictions on the exercise of these rights by members of the armed forces, of the police or of the administration of the State.

Seems pretty clear.

Human Rights Act 1998

An Act to give further effect to rights and freedoms guaranteed under the European Convention on Human Rights; to make provision with respect to holders of certain judicial offices who become judges of the European Court of Human Rights; and for connected purposes.

www.legislation.gov.uk

 

[Knave of Hearts]

The pro Palestine protest should have been cancelled this weekend.
Sorry not cancelled, have the protest but not in the same week as the attack on a synagogue, re schedule it for a couple of weeks time.
Is that unreasonable?

Yes, because that reinforces the conflation of the acts of Israel with the presence of Jews in this country.

Just for clarification. I think a cancellation of a protest against genocide, occupation of Gaza, etc, should not be conflated with any attack on Jews anywhere (in Manchester or elsewhere), with the actions and policies of Israel.
Calling for the cancellation (or postponement) of protests against Israel's action in Palestine with the presence (or killing) of Jews, is conflating the two separate issues.

If one argues that the Israelis killed during the attack by Hamas deserves respect, then the 70,000 Palestinians killed by Israel deserves at least equal respect. And a protest every day would not not unreasonable.
But Israel continued bombing Palestinians yesterday.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

if they had cancelled their protest it wouldve given them a big boost


you dont seem to understand its about optics.

The optics would have been the conflation of the presence and customs of Jews in UK, and everywhere else, with the actions and policies of Israel.
Jews anywhere and everywhere are not responsible for the actions and policies of Israel.

Look at the polls over time to view the changing attitudes among the population of Israel.

Poll Shows Majority of Israelis Support Expelling Gazans​

• Jun 8 2025

A Grim Poll Showed Most Israelis Support Expelling Gazans​

Poll Shows Majority of Israelis Support Expelling Gazans

A Grim Poll Showed Most Israelis Support Expelling Gazans.Haaretz.comDahlia ScheindlinJun 3, 2025In 2014, when Jewish Israelis kidnapped and immolated Mohammed Abu Khdeir, a Palestinian teenager from East Jerusalem, many Israelis were shocked and ashamed. The next year, Jewish Israelis torched a...

www.genocidewatch.com

Rabbis and pundits say the war’s death toll and humanitarian crisis — alongside simultaneous settler violence in the West Bank — are causing engaged Jews to question their faith​

6 October 2025,

https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-years-in-some-are-asking-if-the-war-in-gaza-is-changing-judaism/

 

[Knave of Hearts]

I agree

even if not intentional, having the protest on that day was inflammatory

It would be conflating Jews with the actions of Israel.

and it gave all the media an opportunity to add fuel to the fire

The typical UK media create their own opportunities to add fuel to the fire.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

It's actually very relevant in that one of the UN genocide charges is 'imposing measures intended to prevent births.' Prior to October 7th the birth rate in Gaza was somewhere around 2%, I'm not sure where Si got his figures from but they seem to indicate a higher birth rate than before Ocober 7, so I would treat them with some suspicion, But the birth rate is certainly more than high enough to rubbish of the UN claim of 'imposing measures to prevent births'.

Fillystine talking gobshoite as usual.

In the first half of 2025, only 17,000 births were recorded, according to Gazan health authorities, representing a 41 per cent decline in Gaza’s birth rate over the past three years, the agency said.

‘Catastrophic birth outcomes’ in Gaza threaten a whole generation, warns UN agency

Pregnant women and newborns in Gaza face “catastrophic” conditions, including a dysfunctional healthcare system, psychological stress and food deprivation, the UN reproductive health agency UNFPA reported on Wednesday.

news.un.org

The article continues with more harrowing news:

UNFPA said that the systematic targeting of a healthcare system already on the brink of collapse is creating an untenable situation for mothers and newborns.
...
“The scale of suffering for new mothers and their babies in Gaza is beyond comprehension,” Ms. Baker said.

In addition, the infant mortality rate has rocketed in the later months of 2023 alone.
Imagine what the data will look like for 2024 and 2025.

Palestine: infant mortality rate 2013-2023| Statista

The infant mortality rate in Palestine decreased to 12.3 deaths per 1,000 live births since the previous year.

www.statista.com