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[pete01]

When we dock in Spain on my cruise in my suite, I am going to make a point like on the film pretty woman. I will refuse to get off the ship and hold all of our bags with gifts that we have bought in France and shout through a megaphone,, "Big mistake" "BIG mistake" that will show them.

OMG what will the do without that 50 euro

 

[Highway Man]

OMG what will the do without that 50 euro

Reported

 

[Highway Man]

Highwayman pretends not to know the difference between nationality and race.

You can still be classed as a racist by singling out a nationality it is called xenophobia

 

[Knave of Hearts]

I said Spanish which is pretty general the other is the shadow lord Chancellor

Good job!
One is talking about the man on the Clapham omnibus, the other is a political leader in the Tory party, representing 100,000's of people in parliament..
Imagine being a second, third, fourth or more generation of an immigrant, born in UK, educated in UK, working in the NHS, paying tax in UK, and a leading politician thinks you're not integrated.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

You can still be classed as a racist by singling out a nationality it is called xenophobia

Including British born multi generational ancestor of an immigrant?
Jenrick couldn't see nationality, he could only see skin colour.

 

[pete01]

Good job!
One is talking about the man on the Clapham omnibus, the other is a political leader in the Tory party, representing 100,000's of people in parliament..
Imagine being a second, third, fourth or more generation of an immigrant, born in UK, educated in UK, working in the NHS, paying tax in UK, and a leading politician thinks you're not integrated.

Does integrating not mean living with us side by side? Not taking whole areas for themselves.....I think no matter what, people are normally happier being around similar sort of folk, is that fair?

 

[Notch7]

So around here, I live on the outskirts of Hull and we had a lovely hotel that used to host upmarket weddings and the views of the humber bridge was a great back drop for photos. This has now since been turned into a migrant hotel.

so doesnt really have any affect on people

The residents are not the type of people that we are used to seeing in my village

And how does that affect your life

we now have gangs of these males roaming around the village,

do you?

what size "gangs"

how frequent?

how does it affect you in any way?

crime has gone up ie shed and garage theft

do you have evidence that is connected to asylum seekers?

In times of economic downturn such as post covid and increases in prices of stuff such as cost of living crisis, crime does go up

so unless you can prove a direct connection with asylum seekers you are just stating an uninformed opinion

We have had a lot of females harrassed by them when they walk past

please define "lots"

and have seen house prices fall through it,

do you have evidence of house prices falling

average house prices have risen

The average house price in Kingston upon Hull in August 2024 was provisionally recorded at £144,000. And if we talk about the last year the price was £138,000 in 2023, with a 3.7% rise over the year

https://flambardwilliams.co.uk/hull-property-investment/house-prices/

Highwayman, Reform party and supporters like are claiming asylum seekers have been causing a massive impact on people............but once again you fail to produce any evidence at all.

I conlcude asylum seekers whilst an irritation and yes it would be better if they werent here, but they are not creating a big impact on peoples lives. However cost of living crisis, falling living standards, failing public services, massive NHS waiting lists are having massive affect

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Does integrating not mean living with us side by side? Not taking whole areas for themselves.....I think no matter what, people are normally happier being around similar sort of folk, is that fair?

The sociological reasons for people living in particular areas are well known.

Similar-minded people live in the same area due to the similarity-attraction effect, which is the psychological tendency to seek out and bond with people who share our interests, values, and backgrounds. This can create supportive communities where people feel understood, but it can also lead to less diverse environments and an increased risk of groupthink. The phenomenon is a mix of cognitive bias and the human need for belonging and comfort.

 

[pete01]

The sociological reasons for people living in particular areas are well known.

Exactly, so it isnt very integrated in areas like Handsworth etc

 

[JohnD]

integrated

How are you assessing integration?

Are you still talking about skin colour?

 

[Highway Man]

so doesnt really have any affect on people


And how does that affect your life


do you?

what size "gangs"

how frequent?

how does it affect you in any way?


do you have evidence that is connected to asylum seekers?

In times of economic downturn such as post covid and increases in prices of stuff such as cost of living crisis, crime does go up

so unless you can prove a direct connection with asylum seekers you are just stating an uninformed opinion





please define "lots"



do you have evidence of house prices falling

average house prices have risen

The average house price in Kingston upon Hull in August 2024 was provisionally recorded at £144,000. And if we talk about the last year the price was £138,000 in 2023, with a 3.7% rise over the year

https://flambardwilliams.co.uk/hull-property-investment/house-prices/

Highwayman, Reform party and supporters like are claiming asylum seekers have been causing a massive impact on people............but once again you fail to produce any evidence at all.

I conlcude asylum seekers whilst an irritation and yes it would be better if they werent here, but they are not creating a big impact on peoples lives. However cost of living crisis, falling living standards, failing public services, massive NHS waiting lists are having massive affect

Not worth arguing with.

 

[pete01]

How are you assessing integration?

Are you still talking about skin colour?

Of course not I know some Polish areas that are mainly Polish....

How do you assess it?

 

[JohnD]

You can still be classed as a racist by singling out a nationality it is called xenophobia

If you pretend not to know the difference between nationality and race, I suppose you are doomed to find yourself using incorrect words.

Now you are using a word based on "strangers" or "foreigners" which is different again.

 

[Highway Man]

If you pretend not to know the difference between nationality and race, I suppose you are doomed to find yourself using incorrect words.

Now you are using a word based on "strangers" or "foreigners" which is different again.

Whatever

 

[Highway Man]

If you pretend not to know the difference between nationality and race, I suppose you are doomed to find yourself using incorrect words.

Now you are using a word based on "strangers" or "foreigners" which is different again.

AI Overview

Discrimination based on nationality is called national origin discrimination or xenophobia.