Where have they gone?

[Ivor Windybottom]

You are a lefty - own it and get over it. Corbyn is virtually a Marxist and too far left for even lefties if you include corbyn on your scale one end and farage on the other the middle is starmer -- you are a lefty

Starmer's further left than Corbyn.

Not in a nice daisy-chain hippy way like Corbyn, but in that oppressive authoritarian marxist communist dictator way.

All versions of left are usually very bad for the country overall.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

You are a lefty - own it and get over it. Corbyn is virtually a Marxist and too far left for even lefties if you include corbyn on your scale one end and farage on the other the middle is starmer -- you are a lefty

Nope.

The only people that label me as a lefty are those on the far right.

Proves the point how stretched the 2 ends have become.

In other words tell me who you consider is central on here

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Starmer's further left than Corbyn.

Rubbish

Not in a nice daisy-chain hippy way like Corbyn, but in that oppressive authoritarian marxist communist dictator way.

Rubbish

All versions of left are usually very bad for the country overall.

Rubbish.

All extremes are very bad and it's currently the right that's causing the problems.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

https://votecompass.uk/

feel free to answer honestly.

Slightly right and slightly above lib Dems on the cross chart

Lib Dem 64%
Lab. 48%
Cons. 46%
Green 34%
Reform. 19%>

Now yours

 

[Notch7]

Threatening to kill someone is not merely expressing an opinion.

Hurty words…just an opinion.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Hurty words…just an opinion.

But what Lucy Connolly said wasn't ?

I just don't understand the bias .

Either they are both wrong, or they aren't. Lock them up.

 

[motorbiking]

 

[Notch7]

She didn't. Didn't threaten anyone or suggest anyone else should do anything to harm them.

She said she didn't care if the hotels burnt down. That's not the same as saying that people should set fire to them. It's a subtle but very important distinction.

Not correct

She said: Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the b******* for all I care... If that makes me racist, so be it."


She used the words “set fire to all the f***** hotels full of the b****** That is a direct instruction.


She added the “for all I care” after the instruction. It's a subtle but very important distinction

 

[Notch7]

But what Lucy Connolly said wasn't ?

I just don't understand the bias .

That is exactly my point.

Social Media was full of the “hurty words” excuse for Lucy Connolly

…… but those same people oddly don’t think the words against Farage were merely “hurty words”. Lock him up,and throw away the key they scream.

 

[Brigadier]

It's mocking the colour that white people turn when they get angry

Which is optional.

Hence, not racist

 

[Notch7]

Most Reform supporters are the middle ground, as are their policies

You think £90b of cuts to public services to fund tax cuts to the rich is “middle ground”

Give yer head a shake dude

Reform UK have published a manifesto proposing £90 billion of tax cuts including raising the inheritance tax threshold to £2 million, reducing corporation tax to 15%, lifting the income tax personal allowance to £20,000 and the higher rate threshold to £70,000.

 

[motorbiking]

Not correct

She said: Mass deportation now, set fire to all the f****** hotels full of the b******* for all I care... If that makes me racist, so be it."


She used the words “set fire to all the f***** hotels full of the b****** That is a direct instruction.


She added the “for all I care” after the instruction. It's a subtle but very important distinction

"walk in to the sea and drown yourself for all I care."

am I telling you to commit suicide or suggesting that I don't care if you do? I think you know the difference.

When we looked at this at the time, I felt a decent advocate could have made the case that it was an expression of ambivalence. Not an instruction.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

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But you vote Tory or reform

Now who is it that what they say doesn't agree with what this chart says.

Either you lied through your teeth on the questions or you don't understand cons and reform

According to your answers our politics are very similar but you call me left wing but admit you are are right wing. You must be if cons/reform is your choice

 

[Notch7]

people object to the term Gammon, because it's a race based slur.

Gammon can apply to a person if any race.

Cruella Braverman
Kemi Badenough
Zia Yusless

All examples of Grifting Gammons

 

[carmanmemoranda]

"walk in to the sea and drown yourself for all I care."

am I telling you to commit suicide or suggesting that I don't care if you do? I think you know the difference.

When we looked at this at the time, I felt a decent advocate could have made the case that it was an expression of ambivalence. Not an instruction.

Wasn't the only thing she said was it

And she admitted guilt.

Lock her up, no issue. Lock the farage opponent guy up too. Same cell wouldn't bother me