Labour receive another kicking at the ballot box.

[motorbiking]

As you're struggling with the definition of hypocrisy,
I'll give you an example of it:

"Man of the people".
"Serving his constituency".

FML

let me guess - his wealth is why you can't afford a bigger house? maybe you fall in to the category of people who should

accept responsibility for their own failings,

feel free to keep dying on the hill

 

[Mottie]

I wonder if the Cock on a bike, will share his predictions for who will forms the next government?

maybe he'll do it after the election and then pretend he forecasted it all along.

Who, Cap'n Hindsight? More than likely.

 

[Brigadier]

let me guess - his wealth is why you can't afford a bigger house?

You must be special in that (to borrow a metaphor) no matter how much carp you chuck at a wall, you can't manage to get any of it to stick

 

[motorbiking]

You must be special in that (to borrow a metaphor) no matter how much carp you chuck at a wall, you can't manage to get of it to stick

That is certainly true for those mounting an attack campaign on Nige' and Reform. The more they moan about him and reform, the more popular he becomes.

 

[JohnD]

 

[Knave of Hearts]

...The more they moan about him ..., the more popular he becomes.

You'd best stop moaning bout Sir Keir then.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

That is certainly true for those mounting an attack campaign on Nige' and Reform. The more they moan about him and reform, the more popular he becomes.

I don't think that's true

He just lost that last election, because of the publicity of the polling figures

Not everybody, majority, fall for it

 

[motorbiking]

I don't think that's true

It is - see the polls Reform are up... again.

He just lost that last election, because of the publicity of the polling figures

Labour seat for 100 years, I think it's clear who lost. In England where most of the seats are, there is no strong alternative. Labour voters may have switched to Plaid, but elsewhere they will need to vote Conservative to keep reform out. That is unlikely to happen, they will be more likely to vote Libdem or green.

Not everybody, majority, fall for it

People are looking for their least worse option. There is no party that people are thinking - yeah - they'll do a good job.

Labour will probably sink even lower after the budget and take a strategy of trying to build it from there. That is probably not a bad plan.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It is - see the polls Reform are up... again.

Just like that election

Labour seat for 100 years, I think it's clear who lost. In England where most of the seats are, there is no strong alternative. Labour voters may have switched to Plaid, but elsewhere they will need to vote Conservative to keep reform out. That is unlikely to happen, they will be more likely to vote Libdem or green.

It's reform who lost the seat they expected to win

People are looking for their least worse option. There is no party that people are thinking - yeah - they'll do a good job.

Agreed. Reform isn't the least worst though.

Labour will probably sink even lower after the budget and take a strategy of trying to build it from there. That is probably not a bad plan.

Still a way before the actual election though

 

[Brigadier]

People are looking for their least worse option.

You are presuming all people are that rational.
They aren't.
Some are attracted to Reform because they do indeed believe they're the least worst.
Some, they actually believe in the tooth fairy.
Some, they just dislike brown people.

 

[aveatry]

You are presuming all people are that rational.
Some, they just dislike brown people.

That Johnd you gov poll says - excluding don't know and refused to answer.
I think there are many thousands who are not saying reform precisely because of this type of vile accusation.

 

[Brigadier]

I think there are many thousands who are not saying reform precisely because of this type of vile accusation.

"If the cap fits" springs to mind.

I'd have some "respect" for those who at least have the courage of their convictions.

 

[aveatry]

"If the cap fits" springs to mind.

if you drive support for them underground because they cba with all of that kind of nonsense then how do you expect to debate with them and persuade them that there is a better option. I think the polls hide a silent majority - thanks to people like you and notch.

 

[Brigadier]

if you drive support for them underground because they cba with all of that kind of nonsense then how do you expect to debate with them and persuade them that there is a better option. I think the polls hide a silent majority - thanks to people like you and notch.

Sarah Pochin, you mean

 

[Brigadier]

I think the polls hide a silent majority - thanks to people like you and notch.

Let me remind you of my original post, which I believe was clear, fair and balanced.

You are presuming all people are that rational.
They aren't.
Some are attracted to Reform because they do indeed believe they're the least worst.
Some, they actually believe in the tooth fairy.
Some, they just dislike brown people.

"Some"
"Some"
"Some"


You are anything but clear, fair and balanced.