2-way cube plug adaptors - non-fused?

[JohnW2]

Agreed - we tend to beware the potential of an overload yet do appreciate how unlikely that usually is. .... It is the exception that proves the rule - If an exception is present that in itself proof that it is mere a "rule" rather than an actual "law". If it is a law then it is always true.

Quite so - and so many things are not 'totally impossible' (even though incredibly improbable) that one will very often be able to find such an exception!

We live life on probabilities and decide an actual risk rate for certain things, otherwise we would never cross the road to go to the shop, and , we might not cross the road but still get run over if we stay on the pavement!

Exactly - as I recently wrote, probably the nearest one can try to get is by living alone, never having contact with others (human or animals), never leaving one's house, never using tools, kitchen utensils or step ladders etc. and living under the dining from table wearing extensive PPE etc.etc. - but even that is not totally 'risk free'!

Kind Regards, John

 

[SUNRAY]

Quite so - and so many things are not 'totally impossible' (even though incredibly improbable) that one will very often be able to find such an exception!

Exactly - as I recently wrote, probably the nearest one can try to get is by living alone, never having contact with others (human or animals), never leaving one's house, never using tools, kitchen utensils or step ladders etc. and living under the dining from table wearing extensive PPE etc.etc. - but even that is not totally 'risk free'!

Kind Regards, John

Yep remember the case of the guy hanged by the 'obligarory chin strap' on his hard hat?

 

[morqthana]

... living alone, never having contact with others (human or animals), ...

And (statistically) how many years will that take off your life?

 

[morqthana]

Yep remember the case of the guy hanged by the 'obligarory chin strap' on his hard hat?

?

 

[JohnW2]

And (statistically) how many years will that take off your life?

Probably a good few, but those living under dining room tables would probably not regard that as a 'risk'

 

[JohnW2]

Yep remember the case of the guy hanged by the 'obligarory chin strap' on his hard hat?

That, of course, can be a 'difficult' one, unless/until one realises that it is (statistically-speaking) the 'net benefit' of wearing the hard hat that matters.

It's the same with many things, car seat belts being a good example ... there are undoubtedly a few people who have died as a result of wearing a seatbelt, who might possibly have survived without it, but ...... !!

 

[ebee]

Yup - all you can do is to "play the numbers came" A is "probably" safer than B but not always and in some considerations can actually be more dangerous.
Lady Luck can sometimes startle you!

 

[JohnW2]

Yup - all you can do is to "play the numbers came" A is "probably" safer than B but not always and in some considerations can actually be more dangerous.
Lady Luck can sometimes startle you!

Quite. However, one problem when it comes to undertaking the risk-benefit (or A vs. B) assessments is that some of the results/outcomes are very 'intangible' (certainly not readily quantifiable). For example, in relation to the silly example (of how to 'minimise all risks') I've been talking about, one can't really quantify the 'cost' of never leaving one's home, living under the dining room table etc.

As always, it really does (or should!) simply come down to 'common sense', but there's not necessarily enough of that about!

Kind Regards, John

 

[morqthana]

I thought that chin-straps (proper chin straps, not this sort of thing ) :

were designed, if not to absolutely prevent, to minimise strangulation risks?

 

[JohnW2]

I thought that chin-straps (proper chin straps, not this sort of thing ) : ..................... were designed, if not to absolutely prevent, to minimise strangulation risks?

They certainly should be, but the fact that you were able to find that photo presumably indicates that such is not universally the case?

 

[ebee]

As always, it really does (or should!) simply come down to 'common sense', but there's not necessarily enough of that about!

And common sense is quite uncommon at times john

 

[SUNRAY]

That, of course, can be a 'difficult' one, unless/until one realises that it is (statistically-speaking) the 'net benefit' of wearing the hard hat that matters.

It's the same with many things, car seat belts being a good example ... there are undoubtedly a few people who have died as a result of wearing a seatbelt, who might possibly have survived without it, but ...... !!

I completely agree with both points, I was simply indicating that that risk reduction measures can have the opposite effect.

Equally I could have cited the situation; while terminating cables in floor boxes for long periods of time the obligatory protective footwear (steel toe caps) was trying to cut our toes off and a call to HSE soon brought an inspector to site (back in the days when such things could/did happen) which forced an amendment to the sites rules to accommodate such 'non run of the mill' hazards.

 

[JohnW2]

And common sense is quite uncommon at times john

Indeed - what you write is essentially the same as my ...

.... 'common sense', but there's not necessarily enough of that about!

 

[SUNRAY]

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Mmm have you ever seen anyone wearing one?

I've seen loads of them over the years, usually laying on the floor of the locker room where the useless things are ripped of before the first wearing.

I thought that chin-straps (proper chin straps, not this sort of thing ) :

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were designed, if not to absolutely prevent, to minimise strangulation risks?

This arrangement does at least work and is OK if it includes safety catches.