How Good are New Toilets?

[robinbanks]

No doubt I will be blamed for it once they notice...

So you don't sit to pee and as a result your droplets end up all over the top of the seat instead?

"Ewww..."

 

[mattylad]

So you don't sit to pee and as a result your droplets end up all over the top of the seat instead?

"Ewww..."

What make you think that?
We men have a winky (lol) that when seated, dangles (or can be pointed) down so as to miss this little shelf in the loo.
Women do not, so (not being an expert in this field) I can only imagine that is is due to the female anatomy that is why it happens.

And no, if I stand to pee of course I raise the seat.

 

[JayN]

If you have to flush more than once then there's not enough curry in your diet.

 

[opps]

If you have to flush more than once then there's not enough curry in your diet.

Curry, what is not to love? It looks, pretty much the same, going in and coming out (colour wise).

Ultimately, a good curry hurts in and out.

 

[ChrisJP]

How much TP do you use per wipe? Does the bowl clear if you do a halfway flush when it's less full of paper? Could be an indicator you're using too much

That's a bit of a nerve suggesting someone is using "too much" toilet paper. People use as much toilet paper as they need to get themselves clean. It's not up to anyone else to tell them how much to use.
Modern toilet cisterns are so small they cannot use siphon flushing and instead have a valve at the bottom of the cistern that is opened to flush. These valves often leak and this nearly always goes unnoticed because the leak goes into the toilet bowl. Coupled with the need quite often to double flush, I do wonder if these modern small toilets actually do save much, if any, water in comparison with the older siphon flush large cistern toilets.

 

[mattylad]

I was looking at cisterns in Wicks this morning as I walked past to get to something else, they are down to 4.5ltr now.
Heck, that makes my 6L one sound good - I may have to buy another 6l one (for downstairs loo) before they all go

 

[Pete the Feet]

I was looking at cisterns in Wicks this morning as I walked past to get to something else, they are down to 4.5ltr now.
Heck, that makes my 6L one sound good - I may have to buy another 6l one (for downstairs loo) before they all go

It won't be long before we're buying two of those and twinning them up. Just to think our Victorian forefathers went to the trouble of installing clean and plentiful water supplies and drainage systems, only for the idiots of the future to make it unaffordable and neglected.

 

[dilalio]

It won't be long before we're buying two of those and twinning them up. Just to think our Victorian forefathers went to the trouble of installing clean and plentiful water supplies and drainage systems, only for the idiots of the future to make it unaffordable and neglected.

A bit like taking 2000 years to perfect road building and then cover them in speed humps!

 

[robinbanks]

That's a bit of a nerve suggesting someone is using "too much" toilet paper

It's a plea to the user to examine another variable element of the posted problem

People use as much toilet paper as they need to get themselves clean

No, that's asserting that people always and only ever use the minimum amount necessary, and it's blatantly untrue.
I know for a fact that at least one person in this world has before now pulled 20 sheets off the roll, screwed it into a ball and used it to dab up a drop of wee that probably amounts to 0.3ml. Ostensibly that is too much paper for the job at hand.
I also know for a fact that another person in this world winds at least 10 sheets around their hand, per wipe and they get through a roll in approximately 4 sessions (two days). Again, that's too much paper per wipe.

This person also complains that modern toilets don't flush well, and their partner complains that they amount spent on toilet roll is excessive, but there is no appealing to reason - the argument is that they need some vast number of layers of whatever-ply tissue between their hand and their poop because they don't want it on their skin (and pointing out that their poop is already on the skin of their bumhole and cannot physically be 100% removed by dry paper isn't an argument they respond to) like they seek to use so much paper they can avoid washing their hands

I don't think parents really tell children how much TP to use or how to use it effectively, and it's not a conversation that really comes up among adults very often, so given that the amount to use is likely largely self determined at a young age when people don't think things through, and then becomes habit that is never reviewed I was suggesting a review.

I don't personally have a problem getting any of my modern low flush toilets to flush everything away on the low flush. On average I use around 6 wipes of 2 sheets folded once, to reach a point where there is no visible staining on the sheet post wipe. The wipe count may variably be slightly more if ill and there is more to soak up but it's rare.

If the OP is one of those "make a TP boxing glove per wipe" that could be an aggravating factor in their complaint that the toilet struggles to clear

A bit like taking 2000 years to perfect road building and then cover them in speed humps!

That's because idiots of the future afforded the other users of them with neglect, driving inappropriately quickly through kid-filled housing estates etc

 

[dilalio]

kid-filled housing estates etc

Where said kids are now indoors on their devices

 

[dilalio]

The "Boy Scout toilet paper trick" usually refers to a technique for conserving toilet paper by folding a single square multiple times to create multiple, smaller, reinforced wipes, often involving poking a finger through a small hole for better grip and hygiene, making one square last longer

 

[Pete the Feet]

The "Boy Scout toilet paper trick" usually refers to a technique for conserving toilet paper by folding a single square multiple times to create multiple, smaller, reinforced wipes, often involving poking a finger through a small hole for better grip and hygiene, making one square last longer

Reminds me of a trip to Vienna many years ago. The then Mrs used the subterranean Public convenience adjacent to the cathedral. It was manned by a former concentration camp guard by the Mrs' description. Despite handing over one euro, the bitter old crone would only give out one piece of tissue per user. Despite protestations by the disgruntled patrons, that was all that they were getting. The Mrs was grateful that she only needed to use the toilet to splash her clogs as we say in these parts.
I dare say the old battle axe has been retired by now, or tried for war crimes.

 

[opps]

No, that's asserting that people always and only ever use the minimum amount necessary, and it's blatantly untrue.
I know for a fact that at least one person in this world has before now pulled 20 sheets off the roll, screwed it into a ball and used it to dab up a drop of wee that probably amounts to 0.3ml. Ostensibly that is too much paper for the job at hand.
I also know for a fact that another person in this world winds at least 10 sheets around their hand, per wipe and they get through a roll in approximately 4 sessions (two days). Again, that's too much paper per wipe.

Last year I worked on a domestic site. The plumber was using blue paper as loo roll. I had to explain to the "site manager" that blue paper and kitchen paper do not break down when wet and will eventually, potentially, block the soil pipes. One would hope that a plumber would know better...

 

[denso13]

I dare say the old battle axe has been retired by now, or tried for war crimes.

The Mrs?

 

[dilalio]

Reminds me of a trip to Vienna many years ago. The then Mrs used the subterranean Public convenience adjacent to the cathedral. It was manned by a former concentration camp guard by the Mrs' description. Despite handing over one euro, the bitter old crone would only give out one piece of tissue per user. Despite protestations by the disgruntled patrons, that was all that they were getting. The Mrs was grateful that she only needed to use the toilet to splash her clogs as we say in these parts.
I dare say the old battle axe has been retired by now, or tried for war crimes.

I was in Vienna for the F1 back in the summer last year.
Think we went in the cathedral, not sure as was a very liquid trip IYKWIM