Are all British citizens British?

[carmanmemoranda]

One gave right to be in Britain only, the other whole of EU.

I've never heard of these 2 passport choices before.

When were they ? Did you have to apply for 1 or the other?

 

[IT Minion]

I've never heard of these 2 passport choices before.

When were they ? Did you have to apply for 1 or the other?

We had different rules for overseas territories to prevent an influx of Chinese people from Hong Kong to the UK. British passports but no right to reside in the UK.

 

[SPLINE]

These extreme right wingers actually seem embarrassed to be associated with the first video you posted. That should tell you how bad it was. But it does look like it has forced some on the extreme right to actually try to spell out who they would deport. Their discussion is a terrible mess, though. Of those who are in the country legally, the only people they seem to agree should be deported are those who have been convicted in relation to the grooming gangs. Is that about a hundred men at the moment?

What you call "extreme right-wingers" are merely expressing views that were normal in pre-Blair Britain, i.e. the condemnation of crime and violence.

Why are you supporting the replacement of the British people?

 

[MNW67]

What you call "extreme right-wingers" are merely expressing views that were normal in pre-Blair Britain, i.e. the condemnation of crime and violence.

Why are you supporting the replacement of the British people?

The forced deportation of millions of citizens is an extreme right wing policy.

 

[MNW67]

A quick Google:

"is the forced deportation of millions of citizens an extreme right wing policy"

AI Overview

Yes, policies advocating the mass, forced deportation of millions of people, especially those who may have lived in a country for a long time or even hold citizenship, are widely considered by political scientists and analysts to be a far-right or extreme right-wing position.
This concept is often associated with the following elements:

• "Remigration": This term, popularised by far-right groups such as the Identitarian movement in Europe and gaining traction in the US, is a euphemism for the ethnic cleansing or mass expulsion of non-white or non-native populations based on race or ethnic ancestry, regardless of their legal status or citizenship.
• Ethnonationalism: These policies align with ethnonationalist ideologies, which define a nation by shared ethnicity and culture rather than civic inclusion and universal legal rights.
• Populism and Nativism: Far-right movements frequently use anti-immigration rhetoric and nativism to construct "enemies" (migrants) and appeal to a perceived native population, often using language that criminalises non-citizens.
• Challenging Human Rights Norms: Implementing deportations on this scale often involves proposals to circumvent or leave international human rights conventions, such as the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), to limit legal challenges and appeals.

While deportations of non-citizens are a component of standard immigration enforcement in many countries, the scale of "millions" and the targeting of broad populations (potentially including citizens) for the purpose of ethnic homogeneity place such proposals firmly in the domain of extreme right-wing politics.

 

[SPLINE]

The forced deportation of millions of citizens is an extreme right wing policy.

Those millions of people were forced upon us in the first place, without democratic consent; and so it is correct for them to be removed.

 

[MNW67]

Those millions of people were forced upon us in the first place, without democratic consent; and so it is correct for them to be removed.

Nonsense. The British people gave their consent. People would have voted for the National Front or BNP if they wanted to stop immigration. But they didn't.

 

[SPLINE]

A quick Google:

"is the forced deportation of millions of citizens an extreme right wing policy"

Correct. To call something "right wing" or "extreme right wing" does not mean it is ipso- facto evil.

We are in a time when the loony left control the narrative, and they have made terms such as "conservative" and "right wing" into gross insults. Google itself is a loony-left phenomenon.

The currently fashionable term "gaslighting" applies to what has happened to you. I must do a post about the film Gaslight. Great film.

 

[MNW67]

Correct. To call something "right wing" or "extreme right wing" does not mean it is ipso- facto evil.

We are in a time when the loony left control the narrative, and they have made terms such as "conservative" and "right wing" into gross insults. Google itself is a loony-left phenomenon.

The currently fashionable term "gaslighting" applies to what has happened to you. I must do a post about the film Gaslight. Great film.

You have said that before!

My old adversary Lirefighter was the ultimate Gaslighter. I wonder where he went.

 

[SPLINE]

Nonsense. The British people gave their consent. People would have voted for the National Front or BNP if they wanted to stop immigration. But they didn't.

Sorry, but you are an idiot if you think that not voting for those parties gave default consent to bring in several million foreigners.

You are not an idiot though, which means you are lying. Dear readers you are witnessing another Left-Wing Lie.

No British party of government ever stated in its manifesto that it planned to bring in millions of foreigners; in fact every one since Blair explicitly stated that it would reduce immigration.

 

[IT Minion]

Sorry, but you are an idiot if you think that not voting for those parties gave default consent to bring in several million foreigners.

You are not an idiot though, which means you are lying. Dear readers you are witnessing another Left-Wing Lie.

No British party of government ever stated in its manifesto that it planned to bring in millions of foreigners; in fact every one since Blair explicitly stated that it would reduce immigration.

When parties have stated they want to deport non whites they've been thrashed at the polls though. Even Reform don't promise kicking out all the coloured people, at least not out loud.

So your theory of a suppressed people demanding Lebensraum is pretty obviously wrong.

 

[MNW67]

Correct. To call something "right wing" or "extreme right wing" does not mean it is ipso- facto evil.

AI Overview

"are extreme right wing policies inherently evil"

The question of whether extreme right-wing policies are "inherently evil" is a subject of intense philosophical and political debate, and the answer depends heavily on one's definition of evil, morality, and the specific policies in question.

Political scholars and ethicists generally agree on the following points:

• Subjectivity of Morality: The concepts of "good" and "evil" are subjective and vary across different moral frameworks and cultures. What one person considers a just application of authority or an essential social hierarchy, another may see as oppressive and harmful.
• Consequences of Policies: Extreme right-wing ideologies, historically and in contemporary contexts, have been linked to severe real-world harms. These include:
  • Oppression and Violence: Far-right politics have led to oppression, political violence, ethnic cleansing, and genocide when put into practice. Data shows a significant increase in terrorism associated with far-right extremism in recent years.
  • Exclusion and Dehumanization: Core tenets often include ultranationalism, nativism, and ethnonationalism, which center on a "societal purity" that marginalizes and dehumanizes minority groups based on ethnicity, religion, or culture, portraying them as a threat to the dominant group.
  • Authoritarianism: Extreme right-wing movements are often characterized by a rejection of liberal democracy and an embrace of authoritarianism and a strict social hierarchy.
• Distinction between Mainstream and Extreme: It is crucial to distinguish between mainstream conservative politics, which typically include principles like fiscal responsibility and limited government, and far-right extremism, which moves into areas of white supremacy, neo-fascism, and radical opposition to pluralistic society.

Ultimately, while many scholars argue that the outcomes of many extreme right-wing policies are objectively harmful to human dignity and democratic life, the characterization of the policies or their proponents as "inherently evil" is a moral judgment rather than a purely factual one.

 

[MNW67]

When parties have stated they want to deport non whites they've been thrashed at the polls though. Even Reform don't promise kicking out all the coloured people, at least not out loud.

So your theory of a suppressed people demanding Lebensraum is pretty obviously wrong.

Even in SPLINE's second video, the slimy guy in the middle, who seems to be thought of as the intellectual one, is concerned about public opinion. The most he thinks they could get away with is deporting the men convicted in relation to the grooming gangs. So, probably about one hundred people maximum as it stands. But he also expresses a desire to remove several million citizens. He doesn't really clarify how to square that circle.

 

[Highway Man]

If you want to know facts and figures of immigration and the damage it has done to us, this video will give you the facts.

 

[noseall]

If you want to know facts and figures of immigration and the damage it has done to us, this video will give you the facts.

Good pensioner gathering - AKA Reform/Brexer meeting.