ICE told to get the eff out

Highway Man · 2026-01-24T13:57:47+0000

MNW67 said:
The research shows that, once a threat has ended, the average untrained civilian can stop shooting within 350 milliseconds and a trained officer within 290 milliseconds. Maybe your brain is unusually slow.

Ignore this silly research, it was a one off which was ridiculed anyway. No more accurate than a fire drill.

Highway Man · 2026-01-24T14:01:25+0000

In a fire drill where there is no real fire and an alarm sounding, people walk calmly out of a building laughing and joking to go stand in a car park to do a roll call.
In the event of a real fire with flames and smoke filling the building those same people would be running and screaming and fearing for their lives.

MNW67 · 2026-01-24T14:04:24+0000

Highway Man said:
Ignore this silly research, it was a one off which was ridiculed anyway. No more accurate than a fire drill.

As far as I can tell, it was ridiculed by the people who actually paid for it. Presumably, because they didn't like the results. There has now been two sets of research. The original research was done ten years previously. It seems that the new research was commissioned by a police support group who wanted to overturn those previous findings. But they got exactly the same results! It shows that the human brain is amazing. I have been practicing in the kitchen, and you can easily stop yourself in about quarter of a second. Although, I know you have mentioned impaired faculties, such as memory loss, so it might take you a bit longer

Highway Man · 2026-01-24T14:05:34+0000

MNW67 said:
As far as I can tell, it was ridiculed by the people who actually paid for it. Presumably, because they didn't like the results. There haw now been two sets of research. The original research was done ten years previously. It seems that the new research was commissioned by a police support group who wanted to overturn those previous findings. But they got exactly the same results! It shows that the human brain is amazing. I have been practicing in the kitchen, and you can easily stop yourself in about quarter of a second. Although, I know you have mentioned impaired faculties, such as memory loss, so it might take you longer

Probably around 10 mins for me, I would have emptied the magazine and thrown the gun through the window,.

pete01 · 2026-01-24T14:12:18+0000

Cant believe this is still being discussed lol.....she didn't deserve to die, surely?

And don't call me Shirley

Highway Man · 2026-01-24T14:15:45+0000

pete01 said:
Cant believe this is still being discussed lol.....she didn't deserve to die, surely?

And don't call me Shirley

Nobody is saying that she deserved to die but it is understandable how she forced the ice agents hand.

Highway Man · 2026-01-24T14:18:58+0000

Odds said:
It's fkng absurd to claim he was within his rights to fire two more shots once he'd moved away from the car.

Once more, to remind y'all - this was an unarmed civilian, not a bomb laden terrorist.

Nothing absurd about it. He did and it was deemed legal. Case closed

pete01 · 2026-01-24T14:21:18+0000

Highway Man said:
Nobody is saying that she deserved to die but it is understandable how she forced the ice agents hand.

Was it a bit excessive? She looked harmless to me if hed just knocked her out through the window that would have been terrible but she'd be alive?

motorbiking · 2026-01-24T14:21:26+0000

Odds said:
It's fkng absurd to claim he was within his rights to fire two more shots once he'd moved away from the car.

Once more, to remind y'all - this was an unarmed civilian, not a bomb laden terrorist.

All shots fired in under a second.
Read Kisela v. Hughes If you want absurd.

motorbiking · 2026-01-24T14:23:01+0000

pete01 said:
Was it a bit excessive? She looked harmless to me if hed just knocked her out through the window that would have been terrible but she'd be alive?

Nobody is saying she deserved to die, but over there, deadly force is allowed to prevent a person from fleeing if they pose a threat of serious harm. Unfortunately, she ticked that box.

Highway Man · 2026-01-24T14:23:32+0000

pete01 said:
Was it a bit excessive? She looked harmless to me if hed just knocked her out through the window that would have been terrible but she'd be alive?

A tad excessive but then she drove her car at him so he had no option but to open fire. If she had followed the order to get out of the car then she would still be alive today and have received a fine at the worst.

pete01 · 2026-01-24T14:24:36+0000

Im probably gonna regret saying this but if she had been black this would be completely different....

OMG I feel sick

motorbiking · 2026-01-24T14:25:35+0000

MNW67 said:
As far as I can tell, it was ridiculed by the people who actually paid for it. Presumably, because they didn't like the results. There has now been two sets of research. The original research was done ten years previously. It seems that the new research was commissioned by a police support group who wanted to overturn those previous findings. But they got exactly the same results! It shows that the human brain is amazing. I have been practicing in the kitchen, and you can easily stop yourself in about quarter of a second. Although, I know you have mentioned impaired faculties, such as memory loss, so it might take you a bit longer

You are practicing taking yourself by surprise?

You really are a daft old sausage.

motorbiking · 2026-01-24T14:26:50+0000

Highway Man said:
A tad excessive but then she drove her car at him so he had no option but to open fire. If she had followed the order to get out of the car then she would still be alive today and have received a fine at the worst.

He had plenty of options, but he knew deadly force could be justified.

pete01 · 2026-01-24T14:27:59+0000

motorbiking said:
He had plenty of options, but he knew deadly force could be justified.

Or he completely overreacted and luckily what he did was within the law somehow?

ICE told to get the eff out

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