ICE told to get the eff out

[SPLINE]

O’bama and Byden

Are the people who let them all in.

 

[SPLINE]

Read and weep...

• Undocumented immigrants fill essential labor needs in key industries, often taking jobs with high labor demands and in sectors experiencing shortages. In Florida, they account for large shares of workers in agriculture (60%), construction (23%), and building/maintenance (18%), while in Texas, they are concentrated in agriculture (54%), construction (28%), and landscaping services (51%).
• Tax Contributions: Undocumented immigrants pay billions of dollars annually in federal, state, and local taxes, including sales, excise, property, and income taxes. In 2022, they paid an estimated $4.9 billion in state and local taxes in Texas and $1.8 billion in Florida.
• Economic Growth and Spending Power: These individuals drive economic activity as consumers, with undocumented immigrant households nationwide having nearly $300 billion in spending power in 2023. Studies have found that the overall economic benefits of undocumented immigrants in Texas outweigh the costs to the state.

Look! It's the original left-wing lie!

 

[motorbiking]

Read and weep...

• Undocumented immigrants fill essential labor needs in key industries, often taking jobs with high labor demands and in sectors experiencing shortages. In Florida, they account for large shares of workers in agriculture (60%), construction (23%), and building/maintenance (18%), while in Texas, they are concentrated in agriculture (54%), construction (28%), and landscaping services (51%).
• Tax Contributions: Undocumented immigrants pay billions of dollars annually in federal, state, and local taxes, including sales, excise, property, and income taxes. In 2022, they paid an estimated $4.9 billion in state and local taxes in Texas and $1.8 billion in Florida.
• Economic Growth and Spending Power: These individuals drive economic activity as consumers, with undocumented immigrant households nationwide having nearly $300 billion in spending power in 2023. Studies have found that the overall economic benefits of undocumented immigrants in Texas outweigh the costs to the state.

still missing your sources.

You have been told many times. You are just unwilling to listen.

How do you define a 'useful' member of society. If somebody works hard, doesn't commit any crimes, looks after their family, supports their friends and the community, then I would class them as useful. Most illegal workers actually do pay taxes, whilst being ineligible for benefits. It is a very different system to here. The USA is a massive country. For decades, it has been accepted with a nod and a wink and it has hugely benefited both sides.

Please explain how an illegal immigrant can pay income tax.

take your time

 

[King Billy]

Nobody is trolling, you are posting ridiculous claims:


- Every illegal immigrant has committed a crime - an immigration offence.
- They have no right to work and cannot pay taxes - someone is exploiting someone
- Then you have all the consequential crimes: working without insurance, driving without a licence etc etc. more likely to hit and run.
- Illegal immigrants are harder to trace, because they "don't exist".

The fact they keep their crime off the radar does not meant they commit less crime.

In referring to UK's asylum seekers, seeking asylum negates any crime of illegal entry.
After waiting for 12 months asylum seekers can work.

The type of illegal immigrants that are untraceable that you refer to, are the visa stay-overs, the tourist visa holders who arrive legally, but then claim asylum, or the ones who overstay after their work/study visa expires, or the ones who come in totally undetected. That leaves those who arrived by boat, who claim asylum, and are processed. The government knows exactly where they are.

Which ones are you referring to?

 

[motorbiking]

In referring to UK's asylum seekers, seeking asylum negates any crime of illegal entry.

some immigration offences. the list is quite short.

After waiting for 12 months asylum seekers can work.

These aren't asylum seekers, they are illegal immigrants

 

[blup]

Are the people who let them all in.

Some of them through Trumpf’s impenetrable Wall

 

[blup]

These aren't asylum seekers, they are illegal immigrants

That is self fulfilling prophecy

 

[Highway Man]

What a guy our next prime minister is. Bring it on Nigel we are all behind you 100%.

 

[motorbiking]

That is self fulfilling prophecy

In the context of this thread, they have not claimed asylum. Perhaps they feel safe living illegally in their "sanctuary city".

 

[noseall]

still missing your sources.

Irrelevant.

Please explain how an illegal immigrant can pay income tax.

Via the ITIN facility

take your time

Take your time to read this.

Or this.

 

[noseall]

Perhaps you can explain how an illegal immigrant with no right to work, pay taxes, acquire health insurance etc. can live, pay bills and become a useful member of society?

I think we've ticked nearly all the boxes. No need to thank me.

 

[blup]

In the context of this thread, they have not claimed asylum. Perhaps they feel safe living illegally in their "sanctuary city".

That’s like issuing a parking ticket before the drivers gets back from the machine. Or that Middle East country a few years back which charged tourists with drug offences because microscopic amounts were found in the soles of their shoes.

 

[King Billy]

In the context of this thread, they have not claimed asylum. Perhaps they feel safe living illegally in their "sanctuary city".

I assume you're referring only to the USA issue of illegal immigration.
Now I see the relevance of your comments.

I'm not going back through nearly 200 pages to ensure you have only referred to USA.

Do you really care about tax dodging in the USA?
Do you really think that illegal immigrants are the worst offenders, and causing reduced tax-take in USA?

 

[King Billy]

some immigration offences. the list is quite short.

The list of possible immigration offences is equally short.

 

[motorbiking]

Irrelevant.

Via the ITIN facility

Take your time to read this.

Or this.

If you actually go to the IRS site it paints a different picture.

The numbers included in your sources, include for example the tax I pay, despite not being a US citizen, or living or working in the US. I have US generated income which I pay US taxes on. It's called withholding tax. If you go to the IRS site it's quite clear that employers will be subject to fines as well as taxes.

Pay for personal services performed | Internal Revenue Service

This section explains the rules for withholding tax from pay for personal services.

www.irs.gov