Battery size for angle grinder IAN 485600_2501 Parkside (Lidi)

[opps]

That's an expensive grinder, is it gold-plated? I keep finding the odd job when I need a grinder, but not enough to pay out that much, I do need to get a selection of discs, and one needs to look at the guard as to what discs will fit.

@Rodders53 has given me the link, so now have the manual, thank-you. And it says I have not checked what my batteries are, but that list includes some 2 Ah versions, so it should work OK.

I look at the 20 pages of English instructions, and it tells me not to change the plug, it's battery powered, and the charger is not included with the grinder, I know I have attended courses to show me how to change wheels etc, and I realised for DIY use, the user may not have attended these courses, but to include things which have nothing to do with the product sold, means people give up reading the instructions.

I have looked for motor power, and can't find it, I suppose like RR where they never published power, top speed etc, it just said ample. This is the problem, we have to suck it and see. I started with a battery charger, wife thought it was for charging a car, so when I saw the 4 in 1 garden tool, I thought that was a good idea, easier to use compared to the Aldi petrol version I have, so I wanted a plunge tool, and now having already got 4 batteries and the twin battery charger, went for the Lidi multi-tool using same batteries. And then wanted an SDS drill, so again went for Lidi, as same batteries, so when I wanted a grinder, it seemed Lidi was the best option so did not need to buy battery and charger.

One gets locked into the system with the interchangeable batteries. But up to now all have worked well enough, the plunge tool was a little disappointing, but it does work, I looked at the Metabo View attachment 406265and I simply could not have afforded to buy into their system.

I get what you are saying. Currently my only own Metabo tools are drills and an impact driver. My last purchase was their 18v drill to use with my door lock morticer- the 18v drill has a top RPM of 4000 RPM (2000+ is recommended. Other than some old Dewalt cordless drills, all of my tools are corded. My work is domestic, I understand why site workers use cordless tools but personally, the only cordless tools I am considering are possibly the small angle grinder and a SDS drill for drilling 7mm holes when up a ladder.

 

[ericmark]

Well lashed out, got 4 Ah battery from Lidi £25, will likely mean other drills also work better, as an electrician, often working with the power off, it is such a pain to work with generators and large battery packs, the cordless tools are really a must, such an improvement on these

having battery power.

I do remember the early battery powered tools with a battery held on one waste, and an extra low voltage cord to supply them. Calls it cordless

what's that cord in the middle of the picture? I will admit the weight of the batteries with the hedge cutter and lopper, are a problem, even if well-balanced, with the strimmer and brush cutter the harness takes the weight.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

on these

having battery power.

I could never get on with those, I used a brace type.

You could rest your entire weight on it, and twiddle it round, with either hand.

 

[ericmark]

Agreed, point was however as an electrician, can't rely on having grid power, so battery pack,

or generator,

or direct battery powered tools. Sometimes we can isolate just part of the installation, but in the main, battery tools first, then the second drill/grinder etc, can be mains powered.

I can remember planning my work around the time it would take to recharge batteries, today mostly volunteer work, and most of us, break the rules, and take our own tools to the job, I know we shouldn't, but we do. Goes both ways, I can borrow a grinder, but lot better to have one to hand. Always the change the borrowed grinder will fail, then we are expected to replace it, with an industrial grade replacement.

At home not cutting railway lines, even cutting a brick, only needs to go halfway through. My thoughts are, if using a 2 Ah is going to strain the battery, then better getting a 4 Ah to start with.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

At home not cutting railway lines, even cutting a brick, only needs to go halfway through. My thoughts are, if using a 2 Ah is going to strain the battery, then better getting a 4 Ah to start with.

Yep, they just make lightweight battery drill, rather too heavy. I have a 4ah, but try to limit its use, to my SDS. It seems better balanced for it.

 

[ericmark]

Yep, they just make lightweight battery drill, rather too heavy. I have a 4ah, but try to limit its use, to my SDS. It seems better balanced for it.

The 4 Ah version seems nearly the same size and weight as the 2 Ah version. As to why it needs connecting to the phone so I can see when charged, not sure? Even tells me the battery temperature, and charge current. But why? When the third light stops flashing, I know it is charged, and when the drill etc, stops working I know it is discharged, why do I need an app?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

The 4 Ah version seems nearly the same size and weight as the 2 Ah version. As to why it needs connecting to the phone

They appear to be a different style, to my 20v stuff from Lidl. My 4aH are definitely, much heavier than the 2aH packs.

 

[ericmark]

PAP 20 B1, = 2 Ah PAP 20 B3, = 4 Ah Smart PAPS 204 A1, = 4 Ah

Smart PAPS 208 A1, = 8 Ah

Smart PAPS 2012 A1 = 12 Ah This is the 5 batteries listed as can be used with the grinder, the first 2 are not smart at larger, the last 3 are smart and smaller for same capacity. As far as I can see there is no 2 Ah smart battery, I don't remember the price of the 2 Ah it was £17 something yesterday from Lidi, but I already have 4 so was not interested the 4 Ah smart one, was not offered non-smart version, was £24.99. I was not offered the non-smart version, the two boxes seemed around the same size.

My strimmer with 2 x 2 Ah lasts around 20 minutes after which I want a rest anyway.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

My strimmer with 2 x 2 Ah lasts around 20 minutes after which I want a rest anyway.

So, are you saying these will all fit and work with my 20v Lidl drills?

 

[ericmark]

So, are you saying these will all fit and work with my 20v Lidl drills?

Yes, it seems they will, I see no problem with the 2 Ah for drills and garden tool, the latter is 40 volts, it uses two batteries, but the grinder one can give it some heavier work as to the drills.

 

[catlad]

I had thought that a smaller cutter would be easier to use on a ladder.

Perfect, I have two, buy the 6ah batteries and a diamond blade.

 

[catlad]

one can give it some heavier work as to the drills.

I doubt you will get much umpf with a 2 amp

 

[big-all]

I doubt you will get much umpf with a 2 amp

the umph is the same regardless off amps the amps is the fuel tank whilst the volts is the engine
yes a higher amp on a heavy draw tool will have more initial oomph but as the volts drop with load it will take longer to happen

 

[catlad]

That might be the theory, but it isn't the reality!

 

[big-all]

That might be the theory, but it isn't the reality!

as i pointed out earlier high draw tools are only going to to get a very few mins on full blast per amp perhaps 3 mins per amp so a 2ah battery is virtually flat as soon as you use it as 2x18x60 is only 2160wm so a 300w tool will last perhaps 6 mins