Well, when this country becomes the land that you and others like you really want, I think eventually you'll begin to think again.
I'm not suggesting, of course, that you are slow to acquire common sense.
Our political system, what 'is' the answer?
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I'm not suggesting, of course, that you are slow to acquire common sense.
It is the land in which I lived from 1952 to 1990 and, though initially rather poor, has been improving itself since the end of the second world war.
Sadly, following the advances made over that period, it then began to deteriorate, though still with hope over many years. Latterly, it has become converted toward now preparing itself to join the Third World. Many people (no names, of course) seem happy to look forward to that eventuality.
Were I younger, I would be making every effort to reverse the trend, but sadly I do seem to feel that I am in the minority.
Do you write speeches for TwoTier? I'm not going to waste my time trying to argue with you. I assume that this wonderful graph you have produced has been created by Labour, and what a coincidence that mass illegal immigration began the moment we left the EU! Let's just wait and see what happens up until 2029.
The graph shows legal immigration. The figures up to June 2025 come from the ONS. The projection until the end of the year is from Warwick University. For some reason, nobody really knows why, Boris massively relaxed the rules after Brexit. Labour are now trying to tidy up that mess. Part of the spike is due to official refugee schemes for Ukraine and Hong Kong.
Illegal immigration is a separate issue. There seem to be several reasons why that jumped around the same time. Some related to Brexit, but most probably not linked.
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The problem was that Boris was obsessed with introducing what he called 'an Australian style points based immigration system'. Experts warned him that it was the wrong system for the UK. Because it was bound to greatly increase immigration. However, Boris ploughed ahead. Nobody knows why. Maybe he just thought it sounded good. Maybe he got it muddled with Australia's famously hostile approach to illegal immigration. But most likely he was scared of the economic hit from Brexit and saw mass immigration as a way to soften the blow.
Ah, my apologies. I didn't see the specification 'legal immigration'.
That makes far more sense. So legal immigration has now dropped to low levels.
What is far more serious, as far as I am concerned, is not only ILLEGAL immigration (which I would call ILLEGAL ENTRY), but the rapid and continuing rise in numbers coming here, no doubt for the wonderfully generous rewards they receive for breaking our laws (illegal entry).
To be fair, I can't possibly blame the illegals. The real fault is our governments ever since BLiar, but especially this current Labour government.
I cannot say with complete certainty, but what a coincidence that after we chose to leave the EU, the Frogs began to turn blind eyes when rubber boats began leaving their shore. Were they angry because we had left their control? Rather than threaten us (the Frogs are not the most brave people) they decided to try to get at us by 'girly methods'! Even when our feeble government stooped so low as to try to bribe them by paying them, they still happily watched as the dinghies set sail.
I certainly did vote for Brexit, and would do so again should our inept government succeed in dragging us back under their contorl.
