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“We’ve got to get rid of the sticking plaster politics and have a serious, comprehensive plan for change and reform that is capable being implemented in the first term of Labour government.”

The Labour proposals have Brown hands all over them, and Ed Milliband has chirped up a few of them to put words in Sir Starmer's mouth: more power for the devolved government of Scotland, including the right to negotiate international treaties among them.

The Labour leader does say the party is now advanced in its plans for the early days of government – and is therefore prepared to take a few more risks. He is far more robust on the implementation of controversial policies like the abolition of the House of Lords than some of the pre-briefing of the policy would have suggested.
Brown insists that is necessary to use new political capital immediately after an election, an argument he has also been making privately in the run-up to the launch. “In 1997, we were determined to move very quickly. The Bank of England was made independent in four days.

The Labour leader says he is prepared to take on vested interests from those comfortable with the status quo on the Lords. “Nobody is really prepared to defend the House of Lords as it is.” The report will hand swathes of powers to regions including on jobs, skills, transport and research funding, as well as a root-and-branch reform of Westminster, including ending second jobs for MPs and a jury of citizens setting standards for parliamentarians.

On Bre*it he says: “The deal we have got has been harmful, the deal has holes in it left, right and centre,” he says. But should Labour still be afraid to say Brexit has been damaging? “The government’s deal has done damage to our economy,” he says. “But we are failing on growth way before we had a referendum or left the EU.”
Brown will not demur from Starmer’s stance in public, though he smiles. “I agree with what Keir said. But inside or outside the EU, we do not have an industry policy. It is ultimately neoliberal ideology that is stopping businesses getting the support.”

@TheGuardian.com
 
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All said amid meetings with the old "new labour" crew.
The crew that began this whole financial mess.

And who said Starmer and Raynor did not like populism?
 
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Curious.. Does anyone know what this term means
put together by a commission headed by Brown,

Seems not.
 
It would be nice if any would-be labour government told us what they plan to do going forward, not what they don't like about what has been done.

It's easy to be Captain Hindsight.
 
Curious.. Does anyone know what this term means
put together by a commission headed by Brown,

Seems not.
The progressive thinktank Compass, a key driver behind a campaign by Labour members for electoral reform, said the report lacked the depth and breadth needed to tackle the UK’s “democratic disillusionment”, and failed to involve citizens in designing “a new democracy from the start”.
 
It would be nice if any would-be labour government told us what they plan to do going forward, not what they don't like about what has been done.

It's easy to be Captain Hindsight.
Not unlike a fair few of the political pundits on this very forum! It’s the easy option to make it look like they have all the ideas and wouldn’t have done what the government has done. Heck, they won’t even say which way they voted…..
 
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and financial wizards - I've always valued the historic stock and investment advice expert postings.
 
I've no idea why they want to abolish the HoL as most of them now aren't hereditary peers...

Over in the House of Lords, two new shiny baronesses were being sworn in. Take a bow Lady Moyo and Lady Lampard. One a graduate of Goldman Sachs, economist and married to a billionaire; the other a former barrister, holder of various nonexecutive directorships and a safe pair of hands for a quango.
John Crace


Sure, but is it going in the manifesto?

Even if they put it in the manifesto and go so far as proposing to implement the plan it'd certainly run into a great deal of opposition from the Establishment - who'd have to ratify any legislation towards endorsing their own disestablishment.

Members of the thinktank behind the document are annoyed no mention of PR is in the final draft and without that i can't see any way of getting this across to the electorate when the time comes to vote out the Tories.
 
Sure, but is it going in the manifesto?

I've no idea why they want to abolish the HoL as most of them now aren't hereditary peers...


Even if they put it in the manifesto and go so far as proposing to implement the plan it'd certainly run into a great deal of opposition from the Establishment - who'd have to ratify any legislation towards endorsing their own disestablishment.

Members of the thinktank behind the document are annoyed no mention of PR is in the final draft and without that i can't see any way of getting this across to the electorate when the time comes to vote out the Tories.
I'd be curious to know how many people actually read the manifestos in deciding their vote.
 
It would be nice if any would-be labour government told us what they plan to do going forward, not what they don't like about what has been done.

It's easy to be Captain Hindsight.
Let's be fair, that's the nature of our current political system regardless of who's in government.
 
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