Doing his best King Charles impression.

'People with Pakistani passports who have been here for two years can vote in British parliamentary elections' How can that be right?
And furthermore, any UK resident above state pension age can apply for Pension Credit.

Pension Credit gives entitlement to a plethora of other 'benefits' that people merely on the State Pension cannot get.

Note 'resident', not 'citizen', meaning recently arrived foreign old codgers can be better off than people who have worked here all their lives.
 
Note 'resident', not 'citizen', meaning recently arrived foreign old codgers can be better off than people who have worked here all their lives
How is that better off? That would be equal at most and ignores all of the contribution factors.
 
And furthermore, any UK resident above state pension age can apply for Pension Credit.

Pension Credit gives entitlement to a plethora of other 'benefits' that people merely on the State Pension cannot get.

Note 'resident', not 'citizen', meaning recently arrived foreign old codgers can be better off than people who have worked here all their lives.
Anyone can apply for just about anything.
Whether or not they get it is a different matter. :rolleyes:

I applied for a lottery win. I told them I'd taken part but I'd lost my ticket.
I didn't get the win.
 
Anyone can apply for just about anything.
Whether or not they get it is a different matter. :rolleyes:

I applied for a lottery win. I told them I'd taken part but I'd lost my ticket.
I didn't get the win.
That's a Himmytwist! The occupied towns of the north have endless numbers of ancient Pakistani women, recently arrived, having never worked here, cannot and never will speak English; brought over the join the family on the gravy train! (Or is it the curry train?)
 
That's a Himmytwist! The occupied towns of the north have endless numbers of ancient Pakistani women, recently arrived, having never worked here, cannot and never will speak English; brought over the join the family on the gravy train! (Or is it the curry train?)
Yet more hate-filled lies invented by the resident racist. :rolleyes:
 
AND THEN there are the countless 'freebies' given to people on welfare. Paid for by the rest of us of course...

 
The ones that have not paid in, yes. Welcome to communism!
You think that UK pensioners should be left destitute and probably homeless if they haven't contributed?

Why not euthanise them humanely?
 
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You think that UK pensioners should be left destitute and probably homeless if they haven't contributed?

Why not euthanise them humanely?
Himmy, those are your ideas, not mine.

We have seen the State Pension Age rise from 65 to 67 (60 to 67 in the case of women), with constant threats of further rises , plus government 'nudge' propaganda telling young people that there will be no pension for them in the future. Also government propaganda justifying the end of pensions as being that we are living longer than was foreseen when the State Pension was conceived. This is all nonsense. The State Pension is unaffordable because 1) Much of it is given to people who have not paid for it and 2) The money paid in is not invested, as it would be in a private scheme.
 
Himmy, those are your ideas, not mine.
It was the logical conclusion of your proposed policy.
Follow the line of discussion
You said:
And furthermore, any UK resident above state pension age can apply for Pension Credit.
Pensioners do cost the UK a pretty penny I agree. Probably the greatest drain on the tax coffers going.
The ones that have not paid in, yes.
One can only assume you're suggesting that pensioners who have not paid in, i.e. those claiming Pension Credit should not receive anything.

Now if you're suggesting anything different to what I assumed, can you elucidate please.
... Also government propaganda justifying the end of pensions as being that we are living longer than was foreseen when the State Pension was conceived. This is all nonsense. The State Pension is unaffordable because 1) Much of it is given to people who have not paid for it
Otherwise my ridicule of your proposal stands.
 
It was the logical conclusion of your proposed policy.
It is the only conclusion for a one-track-mind lefty, yes.

One can only assume you're suggesting that pensioners who have not paid in, i.e. those claiming Pension Credit should not receive anything.
As usual, you are making a meal of things I haven't said.

Now if you're suggesting anything different to what I assumed, can you elucidate please.
No. I am the taxpayer, anybody claiming money from me should explain why they want it, rather than me explain why I shouldn't give it them.

Otherwise my ridicule of your proposal stands.
I don't mind at all Himmy!
 
No. I am the taxpayer, anybody claiming money from me should explain why they want it, rather than me explain why I shouldn't give it them.
Nonsense.

You vote in a government, who then distribute your taxes, as THEY see fit. No explaination needed.
You are legally obligated to pay taxes, unless you prefer to break the law?
 
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