contrails (chemtrails)

England is more than you can see from your patio.
That's my point I can guarantee that if I see them (Chem) then everyone else can because it is a "spraying day" - Not actual spraying - its in the fuel remember. Proves its not atmospheric - doesn’t make sense that the exact same atmospheric prevail all over England at the same time. Then if you say it does happen like that then explain the two planes same height bla bla that was witnessed, you can not have it as patchy atmospherics and also blanket to try and debunk. What happens is its either chem - or its not chem there is never any on and off as the planes go through - said patches.
 
That's my point I can guarantee that if I see them (Chem) then everyone else can because it is a "spraying day" - Not actual spraying - its in the fuel remember. Proves its not atmospheric - doesn’t make sense that the exact same atmospheric prevail all over England at the same time. Then if you say it does happen like that then explain the two planes same height bla bla that was witnessed, you can not have it as patchy atmospherics and also blanket to try and debunk. What happens is its either chem - or its not chem there is never any on and off as the planes go through - said patches.
You're still making up this two planes at the same height nonsense.

Do you understand that planes at different heights can and will have different contrails? Some won't have any (low level), some more (higher altitude or different engine settings or mKe/model), some longer lasting (high humidity) and some shorter lasting (low humidity/tangential course through Jetstream)? I'm trying to get an idea of how much physics you understand.

Also how does the ground crew side of this all work? Are there special tanks that the ground crew have to fill up some planes, but not others from? How do they manage the supplies when there's days of contrails and other days with none? At Heathrow It all comes through the same pipeline after all.
 
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You're still making up this two planes at the same height nonsense.
You have tried everything except swamp gas to try and debunk it and failed every time so all you are left with when you can not debunk it is- I dont believe you :rolleyes:
Do you understand that planes at different heights can and will have different contrails? Some won't have any, some more, some longer lasting and some shorter lasting? I'm trying to get an idea of how much physics you understand.
Again that is my point - on a chem day they all are doing it over 30k and all the ones that do it are horizon to horizon and are long lasting apart from the ones at over 30k that do not have it added to their fuel, there is never a mix of some long some short- you need to get out more and pay attention and look up.
Then there is also the complete lack of chemtrails at night - surly the correct atmospheric conditions to form them would happen at night sometimes too, but they dont. And you have proved that much by failing to google and find a single chemtrail at night. One of your links was actually passing off noctilucent clouds as con/chem trails.
Also how does the ground crew side of this all work? Are there special tanks that the ground crew have to fill up some planes, but not others from?
Its already in the tanker lorries from wherever they pick it up from either off site or when delivered to the airport in underground pipes - the drivers dont know about it either. That way you dont need thousands of people or pilots "in on it" which is another debunking tactic.
 
on a chem day they all are doing it over 30k and all the ones that do it are horizon to horizon and are long lasting apart from the ones at over 30k that do not have it added to their fuel
So all contrails are long, except the ones that aren't.

Also, 30,000-39,000 feet typically includes a 12 degree range of temperature. Just because of altitude. That can easily be the difference between forming any contrail or none at all. You do agree that on some days some planes above 30,000 feet might be creating natural contrails and some won't because the air isn't cold enough?
Its already in the tanker lorries from wherever they pick it up from either off site or when delivered to the airport in underground pipes - the drivers dont know about it either. That way you dont need thousands of people or pilots "in on it" which is another debunking tactic.
So how do they only add it to planes only during the day? They don't dump the tanks or trucks every evening. How do they modify this fuel to add whatever it is to the fuel, and what is it they're adding? What about planes delayed, they don't pump the fuel out do they, so wouldn't that mean occasionally you'd get 'chemtrails' at night?
 
Its already in the tanker lorries from wherever they pick it up from either off site or when delivered to the airport in underground pipes - the drivers dont know about it either. That way you dont need thousands of people or pilots "in on it" which is another debunking tactic.

 
That's my point I can guarantee that if I see them (Chem) then everyone else can
I can guarantee that if I can see shadows everyone else can.
I see them as shadows, others see them as assassins, ghosts, leprechauns, spirits and stalkers. :rolleyes:
 
So all contrails are long, except the ones that aren't.
You almost there - chem long and long lasting, con short and short lasting, never are the two types seen at the same time. Pay more attention to the sky
Also, 30,000-39,000 feet typically includes a 12 degree range of temperature. Just because of altitude. That can easily be the difference between forming any contrail or none at all. You do agree that on some days some planes above 30,000 feet might be creating natural contrails and some won't because the air isn't cold enough?
I have monitored it for years when its a chem day they all do it above 30k, again apart from the ones that do not have it in the fuel at the same height, a reminder that an app has been available for 10 years that tells you the height.
So how do they only add it to planes only during the day? They don't dump the tanks or trucks every evening.
A transatlantic flight will typically need 36,000 gallons and a tanker holds max 40,000
How do they modify this fuel to add whatever it is to the fuel, and what is it they're adding?
That one has various theories which have already been discussed here
What about planes delayed, they don't pump the fuel out do they, so wouldn't that mean occasionally you'd get 'chemtrails' at night?
That would be a very rare event - first it needs to be a chem day -second it needs to be delayed enough for the flight to be at night.
 
Which would mean all planes would have to be at it on the day, and no planes at it on the other day.
Yes that is exactly what happens, but not all planes - just the bigger jets over 30k
Today ( so far ) is not a chem day -- go out and have a look I guarantee you will not see any right now.
Just another nail in the coffin of your horse shoite (y)
 
Which would mean all planes would have to be at it on the day, and no planes at it on the other day.

Just another nail in the coffin of your horse shoite (y)
And then when atmospheric changes mean contrails appear mid flight, the pilot (who doesn't know the chemical is already mixed into his fuel) magically flicks a switch he doesn't have and begins dispensing the chemical that's already being dispensed because it's mixed into the fuel.

He's gotta be trolling, surely?
 
I have monitored it for years when its a chem day they all do it above 30k, again apart from the ones that do not have it in the fuel at the same height, a reminder that an app has been available for 10 years that tells you the height
That's not really answering my question, ignore your Chemtrail nonsense, weather conditions can mean that they might form at, for example 36,000 feet but not 30,000?
 
That's not really answering my question, ignore your Chemtrail nonsense, weather conditions can mean that they might form at, for example 36,000 feet but not 30,000?
Yes for contrails but when its a chemtrail day the height makes no difference over 30k. Its all been explained to you in here over and over. You are now just starting to waste my time.
Unless you have any new debunking theories I will not be replying but I will let you know when its another chem day.
 
A transatlantic flight will typically need 36,000 gallons and a tanker holds max 40,000
A minor accuracy note most major airports use pipelines for fuel, not tankers, because tankers only hold 40,000 litres, not gallons. Aveatry misread the Google summary and ignored the units. Sloppy as always.
 
A minor accuracy note most major airports use pipelines for fuel, not tankers,
Pipe line to a point where the fuel is stored then a tanker takes it to the aircraft. I like to sit and watch when I go on holiday.
because tankers only hold 40,000 litres, not gallons. Aveatry misread the Google summary and ignored the units. Sloppy as always.
Yes a rare mistake on my part - litres not gallons - congratulations - you have chalked up 1 "win" I will give you that one.
 
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