Bricklayer daily rate?

[Ivor Windybottom]

What's a very rough typical cost to employ a skilled/trained bricklayer in the Midlands/Yorkshire?

A daily rate for say an 8-hour day, not per-brick.

 

[Koolpc]

£418.73p

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

£418.73p

Thanks. Is that per brick?

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Yes

 

[noseall]

What's a very rough typical cost to employ a skilled/trained bricklayer in the Midlands/Yorkshire?

A daily rate for say an 8-hour day, not per-brick.

Mid's - £200p/day min.

Yorkshire or Stoke - half that.

 

[Koolpc]

Thanks. Is that per brick?

Of course!!

 

[noseall]

Of course!!

'Per course' you mean?

 

[robinbanks]

What's a very rough typical cost to employ a skilled/trained bricklayer in the Midlands/Yorkshire?

A daily rate for say an 8-hour day, not per-brick.

Why don’t you ring some up and ask them their day rate and their brick rate? They may come as a gang so ask whether they work solo with you labouring or whether the price is per man/gang etc

 

[noseall]

Why don’t you ring some up and ask them their day rate and their brick rate? They may come as a gang so ask whether they work solo with you labouring or whether the price is per man/gang etc

It's not as easy as it sounds.

If you say call a bricklaying contractor, he will offer p/m² prices as well as day rates. However, in the next breath he's likely to say I want all batched muck, tubbed batches forklifted onto the scaffold, bricks tele-handled onto a platform and all openings dummy framed.

Speak to an individual site brickie, and he may not be as demanding, but will be half way past joist height when the customer realises that no inspections have been done.

There are domestic gangs out there, but I guess they'll have their own set of rules and what they are responsible for. Feeding these gangs materials can be a chore in itself, if the site foreman (usually the homeowner) is not clued up. That's before they have gone into detail about brick specials, corbels, blue brick detailing, header courses, lintel heights, cav' insulation types etc.

 

[stuart45]

I think Ivor is looking for a brickie to help him build a garage, so I'd guess wants someone on a day rate with him doing the labouring. Probably around £250-£350 a day. It's the sort of job I'd take on these days.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Why don’t you ring some up and ask them their day rate and their brick rate? They may come as a gang so ask whether they work solo with you labouring or whether the price is per man/gang etc

I'm wanting to offer an ex-brickie friend some work. Want to pay full market rate, don't want to insult by suggesting mate's rates.

He'll be doing the skilled stuff, I'll be labouring.

I don't want to waste pro builders' time by having them come round and quote for a job I hopefully won't need them for.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I've done some bricklaying on it, it's 90% OK, but I'm too slow and getting annoyed with it. Have done some big garden walls before, it's easy to follow a string line but window openings have to be right. Time to face reality, I can then spend more time earning money running my business and pay someone else with this money, so hopefully it will cost me nothing in reality.

 

[robinbanks]

I'm wanting to offer an ex-brickie friend some work. Want to pay full market rate, don't want to insult by suggesting mate's rates.

I find the best way to engage trades (that I don’t know) is to ask their price and pay them it, and don’t ask for a discount. I’ve even had such extensive problems after accepting a discount that they have offered that I don’t think I would accept it again

Perhaps just ask your mate what his rate is, then throw 50 quid on top “towards a meal for you and the wife, make up for dragging him away to work on my site” or whatever

I don't want to waste pro builders' time by having them come round and quote for a job I hopefully won't need them for.

Perhaps not a bad question to lead with on the phone; ask them their per thousand brick or hourly rate for (describe wall/size of job/complexity such as corners, arches, features etc) - explain that you’re getting ballpark prices to refine who to ask round to look at the job so as to not waste time

My understanding is the current rate for the north is around 600 per thousand and a decent brickie probably averages around 500 a day when well supported by competent labour, complexity/cuts being the slowdown, 750 if it’s featureless straight runs and maybe up to 1000 a day if they’re just being lashed in, in some place that’s never going to be seen (manholes)

Volume house builders likely pay nowhere near that

 

[stuart45]

I don't think he'll be doing a 1000 a day on manholes, if he ever gets to build a brick manhole nowadays.
The bricklaying championships in Las Vegas every year involve building a 9 inch stretcher bond straight wall. The winner normally averages about 900 in the hour.