Tommy Tommy

[fillyboy]

An example of Tommy at work spreading hatred.

Or the truth.

 

[IT Minion]

90% of the world have bigger, closer issues than what's going on in the middle east. It's barely relevant to us, we need to fix things at home and not get dragged into an unsolvable problem.

Yeah! We need to sort out the massive rise in petrol prices, it's insane how unaffordable it has gotten all of a sudden for no apparent reason!

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Yeah! We need to sort out the massive rise in petrol prices, it's insane how unaffordable it has gotten all of a sudden for no apparent reason!

Do you seriously think that's the biggest issue (other than the middle east)?

The UK's on the brink of bankrupcy.

 

[IT Minion]

Do you seriously think that's the biggest issue (other than the middle east)?

The UK's on the brink of bankrupcy.

The global economy is tanking because of the US/Israeli war and the knock on repercussions. And petrol prices drive inflation, if you want to know why food costs more right now that's why.

 

[Odds]

If we all spit our chew ingredients gum on the roads there will be less potholes

 

[SpiderTrev]

90% of the world have bigger, closer issues than what's going on in the middle east. It's barely relevant to us, we need to fix things at home and not get dragged into an unsolvable problem.

i agree 100%
this is actually the simple solution to the problem. unfortunately it is more relevant to our government than most people we know because of the balfour declaration, and their ancient historic commitment. the slave drivers that the majority of the country worship are completely invested in this war and we are getting dragged down with them.
personally i think it just divides us and helps them keep us on our knees. if we weren't arguing about this we might be thinking up ways to live without them leaching off us.

 

[SpiderTrev]

i am going to attempt to address all this without being offensive, but as humans we suffer from cognitive dissonance and it's effects are very powerful. i hope you can see that i am on your side and i think the left and the right have a common enemy. i don't have stakes in either side, i look at the situation objectively and i heavily criticize both sides of this argument. i am just against warfare, racism and any kind of hate, which both sides are full of.

here goes!

In what way?

he is a woman beater first of all, convicted too, but also other cases where there were no convictions. any man who assaults a woman is the most cowardly of all cowards. my life experience tells me the only men who disagree with that are the men who assault women.

he was on social media encouraging people to prepare for war, then he fled the country when he was put on a list of targets. one of many instances where he was too scared to face the consequences of his actions, there is more to come.

most people know about the time he attacked the syrian teenager (he attacks women and teenagers!), then, in typical TR style, ran away when he was due to appear in court to face charges of defamation.
there have actually been a few occasions where he has ran away when having to face consequences for his actions. he either flees the country or he delays and complicates things in an effort to avoid facing his actions.

he doesn't even use his real name!?! he uses some fantasy name to hide behind somebody he believes to be less of a coward than himself. This is not a huge deal for somebody like you or me on a forum, but for somebody in that position it is very questionable.

he is known for provoking his minions into outrage, then cowering away and letting them do the work.

he refuses to publicly debate with anybody that he knows will grill him in front of a camera. his arguments are based on lies and rely on provoking emotional responses in people, and he knows they cannot stand up to scrutiny, so he cowers away from having to explain his points in detail. Most people don't do the research to verify his claims and he knows it, so by avoiding public scrutiny he is solidifying his lies.

he makes claims and then when it is shown to be wrong he changes his narrative and side steps around what he has said rather than sticking to his guns.

he claims to have these principles, but then he puts self preservation before his principles, cowering away instead of being the political martyr that he paints himself as.

i could go on, but me telling you will not be enough, i encourage you to do some deep background on him and his co-workers.

How would you know this.?

Mostly because of the points raised above and below. but the elephant in the room is the funding and support he gets from israel and the israel aligned "think tanks". he is loyal to them and uses british peoples emotions to turn them against muslims in the middle east and gain support for the attacks on them. A lot of people dismiss this claim but it is no secret to those willing to dig into it.

He was involved in protests before these fascist palastine marches.

that is not true. the rally on the 16th was a counter-rally, organised in response to the anti-war on palestine rally. the left were actually angry that they were allocated certain streets, which was then revoked because tommy robinson arranged a counter rally, causing the so called authorities to re-allocate some streets to his rally. this would not be possible if his rally came first.
if you are referring to other rallies in general, then this is even further from the truth. pro-palestine rallies have been happening since long before he was even born.

another note. the left call the right fascists and the right call the left fascists. but by definition a fascist is a right wing stance. tommy robinson is far right and this is no secret.
that said, i don't believe that most of the left are actually left wing at all. most people don't seem to know the difference, but i agree with you in a way, most of them are also fascists, but they are fascists on both sides.

Name me a successful influencer who hasn't made money?

it is not about him making money from his supporters that is the concern for me, it is the huge amounts of funding he receives from zionists, which is an obvious conflict of interests. it doesn't matter if you are pro or anti zionism, that isn't the point, the point is he is being paid by zionists to manipulate british people. some call him a mossad asset, maybe he is, i don't know, but it is clear he has israel's best interests in mind.
as you said he is an influencer, which means he manipulates people.

From the river to the sea?

i don't understand your point here? yes, both sides.
as i mentioned, i am anti-war, but i am also anti-colonialism. make of that what you will. i can go into more detail if you like but i don't think that is within the scope of this conversation and might be better discussed via PM.

Who are both sides and who is the enemy?

both sides is the left and the right. in this case, the far right tommy fans, and the far left who violently oppose them.
the real enemy is the slave drivers that use the police and military as puppets to control both sides, causing a divide that prevents us from reaping the full benefits of our labour and leaching our energy until we can barely make ends meet. that is the real purpose of all this warfare.

to elaborate on both sides. it is the people. you, me, probably everybody on this forum and probably everybody we both know. we are all the same, and the sooner we see that the better for all of us. we are being taken for a ride and we are at risk of running ourselves down to absolute submission. the real enemy knows this, they have made it happen.

-

i hope all that made sense and didn't come across like an attack! <3
i encourage you to do some deep digging into him and his history and see if it truly aligns with who you really are. i mean the real you. try to look at it objectively and pretend you never heard of him. a good exercise is to put yourself in the other persons shoes and see if you can find reasons why they might react the way they do. read some of their blogs or watch some of their videos. i'm not trying to patronize you, i hope it doesn't come across that way!
i think a big part of the problem is everybody is forced into a cycle of work, go home, scroll online or watch TV, go to bed, rinse and repeat. it dominates our lives and we lost who we really are and we don't even have time to verify claims even if we had the energy to do so.
i know tommy's followers are good people. he weaponises their emotions and uses their conscience against them and they are doing what they know is best with the information that was given to them, but the problem is he gives them false or incomplete information for the purpose of rallying them against his enemies.

we are all in this together and we are all going down the same pan.

i love you all! <3

 

[Elsa TLC]

I cant stand Katie Hopkins. I think shes a horrible woman.

I like George Galloway I think hes a nutter, but I like him.

I like Jeremy Corbin.

Id never go on a march that they arranged, because their politics is opposite mine.

I don't like Katie's mannerisms or her personality but her politics is closer to mine than Jeremy or George.

If she arranged a march that was in protest of our governments inability to deal eith bad immigration then I consider going.

Its not about her, it would be about her putting something so massive in action.

 

[King Billy]

the slave drivers that the majority of the country worship are completely invested in this war

Who are these people?
Are you a driver or a slave?

 

[King Billy]

i am going to attempt to address all this without being offensive, but as humans we suffer from cognitive dissonance and it's effects are very powerful. i hope you can see that i am on your side and i think the left and the right have a common enemy. i don't have stakes in either side, i look at the situation objectively and i heavily criticize both sides of this argument. i am just against warfare, racism and any kind of hate, which both sides are full of.

here goes!


Mostly because of the points raised above and below. but the elephant in the room is the funding and support he gets from israel and the israel aligned "think tanks". he is loyal to them

Tell us about that, with some evidence.

another note. the left call the right fascists and the right call the left fascists. but by definition a fascist is a right wing stance. tommy robinson is far right and this is no secret.
that said, i don't believe that most of the left are actually left wing at all. most people don't seem to know the difference, but i agree with you in a way, most of them are also fascists, but they are fascists on both sides.

Could you explain that, please?
Because I find it a jumble of words. Some of which contradict others.

it is not about him making money from his supporters that is the concern for me, it is the huge amounts of funding he receives from zionists, which is an obvious conflict of interests. it doesn't matter if you are pro or anti zionism, that isn't the point, the point is he is being paid by zionists to manipulate british people. some call him a mossad asset, maybe he is, i don't know,

Any evidence of thus funding from israel or Zionists?

but it is clear he has israel's best interests in mind.

They may share an ani-Muslim attitude, but I find it difficult to believe that TR would serve anyone's interst but his own.

i don't understand your point here? yes, both sides.
as i mentioned, i am anti-war, but i am also anti-colonialism. make of that what you will.

So you think a war of freeing people from colonialism is OK?

both sides is the left and the right. in this case, the far right tommy fans, and the far left who violently oppose them.

What case?

the real enemy is the slave drivers that use the police and military as puppets to control both sides, causing a divide that prevents us from reaping the full benefits of our labour and leaching our energy until we can barely make ends meet. that is the real purpose of all this warfare.

Do you think your "invisible enemy" might be as daft as the conspiracy theories about the deep state or Chem Trails?

to elaborate on both sides. it is the people. you, me, probably everybody on this forum and probably everybody we both know.

Is that your definition of everybody"?

we are all the same, and the sooner we see that the better for all of us. we are being taken for a ride and we are at risk of running ourselves down to absolute submission. the real enemy knows this, they have made it happen.

Who are the real enemy?

i hope all that made sense and didn't come across like an attack! <3

Well your heart might be in the right place. But anything else is all over the place.

i encourage you to do some deep digging into him and his history and see if it truly aligns with who you really are. i mean the real you. try to look at it objectively and pretend you never heard of him. a good exercise is to put yourself in the other persons shoes and see if you can find reasons why they might react the way they do. read some of their blogs or watch some of their videos. i'm not trying to patronize you, i hope it doesn't come across that way!
i think a big part of the problem is everybody is forced into a cycle of work, go home, scroll online or watch TV, go to bed, rinse and repeat.

(Oh God! Don't tell Mottie.)

it dominates our lives and we lost who we really are and we don't even have time to verify claims even if we had the energy to do so.

So we really shouldn't waste our time with any of this:

i encourage you to do some deep digging into him and his history

i know tommy's followers are good people.

How do you know this?

he weaponises their emotions and uses their conscience against them

How does he use their conscience?

and they are doing what they know is best with the information that was given to them,

So they should follow your advice and do some digging?
But if they suffer from "cognitive dissonance", they already believe it all. So they won't bother digging. You see the problem?

but the problem is he gives them false or incomplete information for the purpose of rallying them against his enemies.

We need a Gollum.

I think your hearts in the right place, but you need to work on your delivery.

 

[Odds]

i am going to attempt to address all this without being offensive, but as humans we suffer from cognitive dissonance and it's effects are very powerful. i hope you can see that i am on your side and i think the left and the right have a common enemy. i don't have stakes in either side, i look at the situation objectively and i heavily criticize both sides of this argument. i am just against warfare, racism and any kind of hate, which both sides are full of.

here goes!


he is a woman beater first of all, convicted too, but also other cases where there were no convictions. any man who assaults a woman is the most cowardly of all cowards. my life experience tells me the only men who disagree with that are the men who assault women.

he was on social media encouraging people to prepare for war, then he fled the country when he was put on a list of targets. one of many instances where he was too scared to face the consequences of his actions, there is more to come.

most people know about the time he attacked the syrian teenager (he attacks women and teenagers!), then, in typical TR style, ran away when he was due to appear in court to face charges of defamation.
there have actually been a few occasions where he has ran away when having to face consequences for his actions. he either flees the country or he delays and complicates things in an effort to avoid facing his actions.

he doesn't even use his real name!?! he uses some fantasy name to hide behind somebody he believes to be less of a coward than himself. This is not a huge deal for somebody like you or me on a forum, but for somebody in that position it is very questionable.

he is known for provoking his minions into outrage, then cowering away and letting them do the work.

he refuses to publicly debate with anybody that he knows will grill him in front of a camera. his arguments are based on lies and rely on provoking emotional responses in people, and he knows they cannot stand up to scrutiny, so he cowers away from having to explain his points in detail. Most people don't do the research to verify his claims and he knows it, so by avoiding public scrutiny he is solidifying his lies.

he makes claims and then when it is shown to be wrong he changes his narrative and side steps around what he has said rather than sticking to his guns.

he claims to have these principles, but then he puts self preservation before his principles, cowering away instead of being the political martyr that he paints himself as.

i could go on, but me telling you will not be enough, i encourage you to do some deep background on him and his co-workers.



Mostly because of the points raised above and below. but the elephant in the room is the funding and support he gets from israel and the israel aligned "think tanks". he is loyal to them and uses british peoples emotions to turn them against muslims in the middle east and gain support for the attacks on them. A lot of people dismiss this claim but it is no secret to those willing to dig into it.



that is not true. the rally on the 16th was a counter-rally, organised in response to the anti-war on palestine rally. the left were actually angry that they were allocated certain streets, which was then revoked because tommy robinson arranged a counter rally, causing the so called authorities to re-allocate some streets to his rally. this would not be possible if his rally came first.
if you are referring to other rallies in general, then this is even further from the truth. pro-palestine rallies have been happening since long before he was even born.

another note. the left call the right fascists and the right call the left fascists. but by definition a fascist is a right wing stance. tommy robinson is far right and this is no secret.
that said, i don't believe that most of the left are actually left wing at all. most people don't seem to know the difference, but i agree with you in a way, most of them are also fascists, but they are fascists on both sides.



it is not about him making money from his supporters that is the concern for me, it is the huge amounts of funding he receives from zionists, which is an obvious conflict of interests. it doesn't matter if you are pro or anti zionism, that isn't the point, the point is he is being paid by zionists to manipulate british people. some call him a mossad asset, maybe he is, i don't know, but it is clear he has israel's best interests in mind.
as you said he is an influencer, which means he manipulates people.



i don't understand your point here? yes, both sides.
as i mentioned, i am anti-war, but i am also anti-colonialism. make of that what you will. i can go into more detail if you like but i don't think that is within the scope of this conversation and might be better discussed via PM.



both sides is the left and the right. in this case, the far right tommy fans, and the far left who violently oppose them.
the real enemy is the slave drivers that use the police and military as puppets to control both sides, causing a divide that prevents us from reaping the full benefits of our labour and leaching our energy until we can barely make ends meet. that is the real purpose of all this warfare.

to elaborate on both sides. it is the people. you, me, probably everybody on this forum and probably everybody we both know. we are all the same, and the sooner we see that the better for all of us. we are being taken for a ride and we are at risk of running ourselves down to absolute submission. the real enemy knows this, they have made it happen.

-

i hope all that made sense and didn't come across like an attack! <3
i encourage you to do some deep digging into him and his history and see if it truly aligns with who you really are. i mean the real you. try to look at it objectively and pretend you never heard of him. a good exercise is to put yourself in the other persons shoes and see if you can find reasons why they might react the way they do. read some of their blogs or watch some of their videos. i'm not trying to patronize you, i hope it doesn't come across that way!
i think a big part of the problem is everybody is forced into a cycle of work, go home, scroll online or watch TV, go to bed, rinse and repeat. it dominates our lives and we lost who we really are and we don't even have time to verify claims even if we had the energy to do so.
i know tommy's followers are good people. he weaponises their emotions and uses their conscience against them and they are doing what they know is best with the information that was given to them, but the problem is he gives them false or incomplete information for the purpose of rallying them against his enemies.

we are all in this together and we are all going down the same pan.

i love you all! <3

I bet bod didn't get beyond reading the first line..

 

[noseall]

I bet bod didn't get beyond reading the first line..

 

[Elsa TLC]

I bet bod didn't get beyond reading the first line..

I filtered through the lot. In some cases I got past 3 lines before I decided it wasn't for me.

 

[Elsa TLC]

It was very long, wasn't it!

 

[Vinty]

then he fled the country when he was put on a list of targets

That was just another of Tommy's money raising scams.
He used the so called threat from Islamists to beg for donations to pay for his trip to America.
It all fits into Tommy's modus operandi when it comes to scamming cash from his supporters, he usually he gets himself arrested generate publicity in order to make himself look like a victim of state, he then begs for donations from supporters to pay for his legal defence.
He was arrested a few years back, he swore he would fight the charge against him to the very end, he then begged for donations and raised 1000's, when his day in court came , he walked in and pleaded guilty.
All the 1000's raised in donations disappeared.lol.