Makerfield

[Elsa TLC]

Its funny how we pronounce names and things with different accents.

Its most probably explains why there are so many Chinese people living in Harrow!

 

[blup]

Burnam says he wants to save the Labor party, not sure that’s going to be easier than saving the country, but haven’t a clue what he stands for, other than his history as a Bliarite

 

[Elsa TLC]

Burnam says he wants to save the Labor party, not sure that’s going to be easier than saving the country, but haven’t a clue what he stands for, other than his history as a Bliarite

I actually think hes a big threat to Reform.

If he has done anything near for Manchester that Rudy Giuliani did for New York then he has proven record.

If I was a Labour man I'd want him in.

 

[King Billy]

No it isn't, it is just paid for by other people.

So it's free for some people, i.e pensioners.

 

[King Billy]

Yes, although many did not contribute

That's a very misogynist viewpoint.
Homemaker, stay-at-home parent, etc are the modern, PC compatible, non-misogynistic terms.

Yes, but that's not how a pension should work.

Keep your pontifications for a thread discussing how thing should work.

 

[King Billy]

Certainly!

1. The state pension, or a similar amount under a different name, is paid to everyone in Britain who has reached the state pension age. BUT - not everybody has worked and paid taxes all their lives, as I have and I am sure you have. One can leave school, never have a job and live off the state for decades and get the same pension as somebody who has worked.

Incorrect. someone who has not been credited with the appropriate NI stamps will not be entitled to a state pension.
They might be entitled to pension credit, which is a different concept altogether.

Also, foreigners of pensionable age who have not worked in Britain, get it. They don’t deserve it.

Nonsense. their status as foreigners makes no difference. They are either entitled to pension, if they have sufficient number of NI stamps. Or they're entitled to pension credit.
NB non-working "homemakers" are not automatically entitled to a full state pension. It depends on their roles whether they are entitled or not.
If you wish to discuss the issues, at least educate yourself first.

2. In a true pension scheme,

Nonsense.
There is no single "true" pension scheme; instead, the term describes any legally compliant financial arrangement designed to provide income in retirement or upon reaching a specific age.
You can't invent your own definition of words to support your extreme narratives. That's Mottie's prerogative.

 

[King Billy]

Its funny how we pronounce names and things with different accents.

Its most probably explains why there are so many Chinese people living in Harrow!

I'm very confident that your ability in Chinese, or any foreign language, is limited to infantile gurgles.

 

[King Billy]

Burnam says he wants to save the Labor party, not sure that’s going to be easier than saving the country, but haven’t a clue what he stands for, other than his history as a Bliarite

Both WS and AB want to rejoin the EU, in the long term.
In the meantime they both want to continue Starmer's move to be closer to the EU.

 

[securespark]

I used to work near there, although never actually went into the town. The locals just called it Ashton, which often caused confusion, because Ashton to me means Ashton-Under-Lyne.

Smaller area I know, but locals who live in Ashton-upon-Mersey also just call it Ashton.

All three Ashtons

Ashton-in-Makerfield (Wigan)
Ashton-u-Lyne (Tameside) &
Ashton-upon-Mersey (Trafford)

are all within Greater Manchester.

You just have to remember which borough you're in...

 

[securespark]

a person's pension contributions are invested and saved up to pay that person's pension.

In anything other than a state pension, maybe.

The British system, where pensions are paid directly from younger people's taxes, and which you unquestioningly accept as 'the only way' is crackers.

Isn't that how the state pension works?

 

[King Billy]

In anything other than a state pension, maybe.

Isn't that how the state pension works?

Spineless is not talking about the here and now. He's pontificating on how he thinks society should be organised.

 

[fixitflav]

As for pronunciation, not all is as it seems.

Blackley, in Manchester, is pronounced "Blakeley".

Yes, I remember it well. And in Bradford (the one in Yorkshire, not Manchester) they say Bratford.

In Norfolk there's Cossey (Costessey), Hapesberry (Happisburgh) and Windham (Wymondham).