C2 for blacks on consuner unit

[diycooper]

Had a EICR done and my consumer unit got a c2 for having blanks advised need to change
ge to.modules as well as some other c2.

Would them blanks be a c2 ?

 

[Murdochcat]

I would ask the spark who did the EICR to justify the C2 code

 

[ericmark]

If the blanks can be removed without a tool, and there are live parts exposed when removed, then one could not say he is wrong. The blanks should be of a design which will not allow removal without a key or tool.

These are firmly fixed, it needs the cover removing to take them out.

I personally would not award a C2 with these unless CU where a toddler may play with it, but technically if you can remove without a tool then one could give it a C2, but I don't think I could get them out without a tool.

 

[Murdochcat]

If the blanks can be removed without a tool, and there are live parts exposed when removed, then one could not say he is wrong. The blanks should be of a design which will not allow removal without a key or tool.

View attachment 415137View attachment 415138View attachment 415139These are firmly fixed, it needs the cover removing to take them out.

I personally would not award a C2 with these View attachment 415140unless CU where a toddler may play with it, but technically if you can remove without a tool then one could give it a C2, but I don't think I could get them out without a tool.

Missing blanks and direct access to copper C2 definitely but when you have to remove a blank to do this - comment or C3 imho

 

[diycooper]

If the blanks can be removed without a tool, and there are live parts exposed when removed, then one could not say he is wrong. The blanks should be of a design which will not allow removal without a key or tool.

View attachment 415137View attachment 415138View attachment 415139These are firmly fixed, it needs the cover removing to take them out.

I personally would not award a C2 with these View attachment 415140unless CU where a toddler may play with it, but technically if you can remove without a tool then one could give it a C2, but I don't think I could get them out without a tool.

Consumer unit is ceiling height behind hall door. Most adults would need a step.

 

[diycooper]

Had this brand new cu fitted in another prooerty last week.

This would be a c2 then

 

[Risteard]

Missing blanks and direct access to copper C2 definitely but when you have to remove a blank to do this - comment or C3 imho

Missing blanks would be a definite C1.

 

[pete01]

Missing blanks and direct access to copper C2 definitely but when you have to remove a blank to do this - comment or C3 imho

Isn't that a C1? I would just clip blank in.

 

[pete01]

Had this brand new cu fitted in another prooerty last week.

This would be a c2 then

Nope, no code at all.

 

[diycooper]

Nope, no code at all.

Whats the difference both cu have blanks ?

 

[pete01]

Whats the difference both cu have blanks ?

No code on both in my opinion, they dont quite look in properly on the first one, just swap them for some metal ones they cant fall out easily.

 

[diycooper]

No code on both in my opinion, they dont quite look in properly on the first one, just swap them for some metal ones they cant fall out easily.

Need to pay for remedial or no satisfactory eicr

 

[pete01]

Need to pay for remedial or no satisfactory eicr

Is that the only problem? You can just swap them yourself and send him a pic.

 

[ericmark]

There is no MOT hand book equivalent for an EICR, it is up to the inspector, there is nothing to say they must even use the codes, it is down to the inspectors' opinion, he can code as he sees fit.

I would not code push in blanks myself, but neither can I say it is wrong, I see both types shown as fusebox blanks. The fusebox CU has a lid

which means even if the box goes on fire, contacts are contained, in some cases consumer units can have a lockable lid, so maybe the push in type are for when the lid is lockable?

I think it is wrong to give a C2 to a push in blank, but I can't say another inspector should have same opinion to me. It is up to him was passes and fails, not anyone on a forum, but it should include notes as to why it has failed with manufacturers blanks. If they are Manufactures blanks.

DIN rail as a German standard, but the opening for a MCB/RCBO is not, it seems all are 12.5 mm wide and IP rating for finger proof is under 12 mm, so the gap will allow a standard finger to enter, and the length of the slot does not seem to have a standard, so a blank for a fuesbox used on Wylex may not be correct dimensions to stop it being removed without a tool.

I would actually try to remove them, without any tool, can you remove them, or are they firm?

 

[Murdochcat]

Need to pay for remedial or no satisfactory eicr

I refer you back to my post # 2

As the “spark” who gave the C2 to justify it - as I suspect they will struggle