The price of Xenophobia

[King Billy]

Haha. Right over your head.

Well explain it to me then.
Let me and others decide whether it was over my head or a clear case of knee-jerk abusive reaction.
A failure to explain it will suggest it was the latter.

 

[noseall]

its beyond ridiculous to claim this is why millions of people voted leave.

Underestimate the stoopidity of Brexers at your peril.

 

[King Billy]

So these translate into Xenophobia and racism? You daft brush

So your motive was purely tax avoidance.
OK.

I was able to buy a new boat without paying VAT. Saved well over 100k. Without it I would have probably paid French VAT based on its value after 5 years.

I wonder how many others were so well placed and aware that they also voted for Brexit, for the same reason.
Of course they would also have been aware of the forthcoming visa restrictions.
Next time I see my ex-yachting friends I'll run your scenario past them, to see if it stacks up.
Let me just clarify one thing, the boat you bought cost well over £500,000? Is that right? Which you paid no VAT on? Is that right?

A donation to the Reform party will do nicely.

I think ellal was referring to a benefit to UK as a whole UK, not to one individual.

 

[King Billy]

seems thats you:

How the United Kingdom voted on Thursday... and why - Lord Ashcroft Polls

The UK has voted to leave the European Union. On referendum day I surveyed 12,369 people after they had voted to help explain the result – who voted for which outcome, and what lay behind their decision. The demographics The older the voters, the more likely they were to have voted to leave...

lordashcroftpolls.com

I just did

He didn't ask the pertinent question.

Strangely enough many a research has come up with the same conclusion...
"The two main reasons people voted Leave were ‘immigration’ and ‘sovereignty’, whereas the main reason people voted Remain was ‘the economy'...

No doubt you'll fill up the next few pages trying to disprove the undeniable facts...

Failing to address the relevant points.

 

[motorbiking]

So your motive was purely tax avoidance.
OK.

The exam question was to find one single Brexit benefit. Not justify the why anyone voted leave or remain.

I could have gone with the early covid Vaccine, but he's a bit sensitive about that.

here is a high level guide, don't expect anyone to give you a detailed step by step or any more detail from me. This is a specialty for which experts rightly charge a fee for their knowhow. A quick search of any used boats for sale site will show plenty of VAT not paid boats for sale.

The Brexit Boat Buyer's Guide: Navigating VAT Rules for UK Power Boat Purchases - One Marine

Last updated: August 2025 When it comes to purchasing a power boat in the £100,000 to £750,000 range, understanding VAT regulations has become significantly more complex since Brexit. Whether you’re buying from an EU dealer, importing a boat that’s been cruising the Mediterranean, or simply...

www.onemarine.co.uk

 

[motorbiking]

He didn't ask the pertinent question.

He hasn't provided any references to back up the claim.

Failing to address the relevant points.

here we go again

 

[King Billy]

The exam question was to find one single Brexit benefit. Not justify the why anyone voted leave or remain.

It was obviously a question about a benefit to UK as a whole, not to one person who wanted to avoid paying VAT.

I could have gone with the early covid Vaccine, but he's a bit sensitive about that.

Well try it, let's see how you go.
Here's my initial contribution:
It was under EU rules that UK approved the Covid vaccine.

The MHRA’s decision was taken in accordance with the relevant EU legislation, which allows member states to grant temporary authorisation for a medicinal product in response to the spread of infectious diseases (among others).

 

[King Billy]

He hasn't provided any references to back up the claim.

here we go again

You presented your source to prove your claim.
In your presented source the relevant question was not asked. therefore it was irrelevant.

Ellal did present evidence that given the right question was asked the result was as how ellal explained.

 

[ellal]

I think ellal was referring to a benefit to UK as a whole UK, not to one individual.

Yep, and not a single benefit to the UK has been pointed out by a single brexiteer...

They've only had a decade to think one up, but nope they're still scratching their collective head

And not a word about the hit that the economy has taken...

Or the devalued currency...

One would think that brexiteers would be praising these 'achievements' don't you think

 

[motorbiking]

You presented your source to prove your claim.
In your presented source the relevant question was not asked. therefore it was irrelevant.

Ellal did present evidence that given the right question was asked the result was as how ellal explained.

feel free to provide another source and show why it is better than the Ashcroft one.

 

[motorbiking]

Yep, and not a single benefit to the UK has been pointed out by a single brexiteer...

They've only had a decade to think one up, but nope they're still scratching their collective head

I've given you two.
chop chop a bet is a bet
Nige' will be grateful

 

[King Billy]

feel free to provide another source and show why it is better than the Ashcroft one.

The Ashcroft one did not address the motivation of racism or xenophobia, so it's a useless poll.
What is needed is a study or poll showing the motivation of racism or xenophobia on the voting for Brexit.
Ellal has presented the results of such a study.

 

[King Billy]

I've given you two.
chop chop a bet is a bet
Nige' will be grateful

A personal opportunity at tax avoidance by you. Not a benefit to UK. In fact it was a loss of tax for UK, so not a benefit.
What was the other one?
Covid? You refused to elucidate!

 

[motorbiking]

The Ashcroft one did not address the motivation of racism or xenophobia, so it's a useless poll.
What is needed is a study or poll showing the motivation of racism or xenophobia on the voting for Brexit.
Ellal has presented the results of such a study.

there was no link to a source in post 16 to back up the claim made. You and Ellal imagined it.. again.

 

[King Billy]

The exam question was to find one single Brexit benefit. Not justify the why anyone voted leave or remain.

I could have gone with the early covid Vaccine, but he's a bit sensitive about that.

here is a high level guide, don't expect anyone to give you a detailed step by step or any more detail from me. This is a specialty for which experts rightly charge a fee for their knowhow. A quick search of any used boats for sale site will show plenty of VAT not paid boats for sale.

The Brexit Boat Buyer's Guide: Navigating VAT Rules for UK Power Boat Purchases - One Marine

Last updated: August 2025 When it comes to purchasing a power boat in the £100,000 to £750,000 range, understanding VAT regulations has become significantly more complex since Brexit. Whether you’re buying from an EU dealer, importing a boat that’s been cruising the Mediterranean, or simply...

www.onemarine.co.uk

Sorry, I didn't see your edit,
So you reckon a complication of VAT regulations is a benefit?

VAT regulations has become significantly more complex since Brexit.

from your source.
And a loss of VAT to UK is a benefit to UK?

Are you lost? Or just misunderstanding,the definitiion of a "benefit"?