Is “I cannot see any asbestos” a valid reason to close this case?

Can you see asbestos in dust from plaster that has been smashed of a wall?

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The ceiling in my bedroom tested positive for chrysotile asbestos. Inside the ceiling was a white, mesh-like material, and what appeared to be the same material—with the same texture—was also present inside one of the walls.

My landlord’s contractor demolished that wall back to the brickwork without first providing any evidence that the material had been tested. Dust was left throughout my flat, including over belongings that I had stored in the kitchen during the works. This includes bedding, covers, and cushions placed on top of the cupboards, as well as boxes stacked nearby. Dust is also covering the worktops and the tops of the boxes.

I have repeatedly asked the landlord for the asbestos survey, risk assessment, and any air-testing or clearance certification relating to the wall, but they have not provided anything. I am beginning to suspect that the wall was never surveyed.

My understanding is that where asbestos may be present and its status is uncertain, the material should either be tested or treated as though it contains asbestos until proven otherwise. Given that the bedroom ceiling had already tested positive and the material inside the wall appeared to be the same, it seems reasonable to believe that the wall should have been investigated before being demolished.

I reported the matter to the local authority’s environmental health team. However, the officer closed the case, stating: “I cannot see any asbestos present.”

Am I wrong to regard that as an inadequate and potentially unsafe reason for closing the case? Asbestos fibres are microscopic, so surely the absence of visibly identifiable asbestos does not establish that the dust and debris are safe.

I am reluctant to move the contaminated-looking bedding, cushions and boxes because doing so could disturb the dust. The landlord is also refusing to arrange specialist cleaning or provide evidence that the area is safe.

Am I overreacting, or should the landlord and environmental health officer be taking further action? What surveys, records, testing, or clearance documents should normally exist after work of this kind?
 
Probably.

What age is the property?
Well, the main building was built in 1800, but my bedroom is an extension off that and was built in 1995-1997. There was an issue when building that made it take longer. It's the ceiling that was tested and positive that they also hacked and sanded down at the joint, which is why I'm cautious.
 
"Can you see asbestos in dust from plaster that has been smashed off a wall?"
yes, but you'd need a (preferably polarising) microscope. Then it's easy. The needles or curly fibres are clear at 400x.
Much smaller than a human hair
It's obvious in about a minute
Builders are blasé about asbestos, it's unlikely any test was done if they could have skipped it.
Who tested the ceiling? I expect there someone said it "looked like it could be".

ASK whoever it was, who said
" local authority’s environmental health team. However, the officer closed the case, stating: “I cannot see any asbestos present.”
Ask what him what he "looked at". There must be more to the report than that. Those guys know what they're d0ing.


Most chrysotile is used in "asbestos cement" sheets, where it's bound up, but sawing etc releases some.
Bearing in mind kids used to collect up all types including the nastier ones in the streets near the factories, and throw it about in the wind usually with no efffect, you're very unlikely to get enough exposure to be signficant from what you say.

You've had a survey but not had an adequate report from it. Anybody will understand your concern, except your landlord perhaps!
 
"Can you see asbestos in dust from plaster that has been smashed off a wall?"
yes, but you'd need a (preferably polarising) microscope. Then it's easy. The needles or curly fibres are clear at 400x.
Much smaller than a human hair
It's obvious in about a minute
Builders are blasé about asbestos, it's unlikely any test was done if they could have skipped it.
Who tested the ceiling? I expect there someone said it "looked like it could be".

ASK whoever it was, who said
" local authority’s environmental health team. However, the officer closed the case, stating: “I cannot see any asbestos present.”
Ask what him what he "looked at". There must be more to the report than that. Those guys know what they're d0ing.


Most chrysotile is used in "asbestos cement" sheets, where it's bound up, but sawing etc releases some.
Bearing in mind kids used to collect up all types including the nastier ones in the streets near the factories, and throw it about in the wind usually with no efffect, you're very unlikely to get enough exposure to be signficant from what you say.

You've had a survey but not had an adequate report from it. Anybody will understand your concern, except your landlord perhaps!
It’s extremely unlikely they used asbestos internally in the mid to late 90s. There maybe some present in artex at that time but again unlikely. It’s almost as if the OP is hunting for it.
 
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"Can you see asbestos in dust from plaster that has been smashed off a wall?"
yes, but you'd need a (preferably polarising) microscope. Then it's easy. The needles or curly fibres are clear at 400x.
Much smaller than a human hair
It's obvious in about a minute
Builders are blasé about asbestos, it's unlikely any test was done if they could have skipped it.
Who tested the ceiling? I expect there someone said it "looked like it could be".

ASK whoever it was, who said
" local authority’s environmental health team. However, the officer closed the case, stating: “I cannot see any asbestos present.”
Ask what him what he "looked at". There must be more to the report than that. Those guys know what they're d0ing.


Most chrysotile is used in "asbestos cement" sheets, where it's bound up, but sawing etc releases some.
Bearing in mind kids used to collect up all types including the nastier ones in the streets near the factories, and throw it about in the wind usually with no efffect, you're very unlikely to get enough exposure to be signficant from what you say.

You've had a survey but not had an adequate report from it. Anybody will understand your concern, except your landlord perhaps!

It’s extremely unlikely they used asbestos internally in the mid to late 90s. There maybe some present in artex at that time but again unlikely. It’s almost as if the OP is hunting for it.



That's my issue with him. The ceiling had a sample taken in 2023; it tested positive. This was following a leak. I asked the surveyor if he was going to take a sample from the wall my boiler is on, as that's where most of the damage is, so I assumed it would be taken down; it made sense. He didn't sample it.
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In February 2026 they finally come to do the repairs. I was put in a hotel for 2 weeks that turned into 3 months; I packed and put all my belongings in the kitchen, including bedding. The reason for the extension was asbestos, so I assume they had tested the wall. The repair manager said she would give me the report when the contractor gives it to her. When that happened, she said I had to then put in a subject access request. I requested it, and it didn't contain the wall report, and now they are ignoring me. I had the environmental health officer from the council out, and he stood at my kitchen door and looked in and then wrote me a letter a week later saying he "couldn't see asbestos dust". He knew I was worried about disturbing the dust. I'm also diabetic and was in remission, but since 24th April I've had no kitchen, and I've had to go back onto medication. The view from where he stood, and there's dust on top of the bedding and cupboards. I don't want to pull it down and disturb any fibres.

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That's the ceiling
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Private or social housing landlord? If the latter point them towards Awaabs law, Riddor and COSSH if the former then probably just COSSH and Riddor.
 
Get the kit.

If it turns out to be asbestos, immediately start "legal action" (i.e, letters before action) against the builder, the landlord, the council environmental health officer, the council chief exec

Complain to the council audit committee chair, your councillor, your MP, the local media.

Broadcast their failings on social media.

Ask the Environment Agency to prosecute breaches of the asbestos regulations.

Make a RIDDOR report to the HSE.

Become the biggest, noisiest, they-wish-you'd-never-been-born PITA you can possibly be.


If it's not asbestos, either clean up, or ask the landlord if he intends to get his builders to clean up the mess they left behind.
 

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