Seriously ????

[transam]

On the radio BBC this morning

500,000 ( half a million ) children are abused every year ?? That’s sexually assaulted and raped !!!!!!

Dunno how they arrived at this figure but that’s was the reported !!!!!

 

[motorbiking]

I'm not aware of the statistic, but could it include under age sexual activity?

 

[King Billy]

On the radio BBC this morning

500,000 ( half a million ) children are abused every year ?? That’s sexually assaulted and raped !!!!!!

Dunno how they arrived at this figure but that’s was the reported !!!!!

It might not be an annual amount.
NSPC suggest a figure of 1 in 20 children have been sexually abused.

We don't know exactly how many children in the UK experience sexual abuse. However, research with 2,275 young people aged 11-17 about their experiences of sexual abuse suggests around 1 in 20 children in the UK have been sexually abused.

With about 4.35 million children in UJK

There are approximately 14.35 million children (aged under 18) living in the United Kingdom

That would suggest that about 720,000 children under 18 in the UK have been sexually abused.

 

[transam]

I'm not aware of the statistic, but could it include under age sexual activity?

Dunno they did not mention that ????

Just said sexual assault and rape ??!!!

Apparently 1 in 5 girls

1 in 10 are boys ???

Discussed / reported in BBC woman’s hour

 

[King Billy]

Dunno they did not mention that ????

Just said sexual assault and rape ??!!!

Apparently 1 in 5 girls

1 in 10 are boys ???

Discussed / reported in BBC woman’s hour

On the radio BBC this morning

500,000 ( half a million ) children are abused every year ?? That’s sexually assaulted and raped !!!!!!

Dunno how they arrived at this figure but that’s was the reported !!!!!

The figure appears to originate from this report:

Best estimates suggest that 500,000 children are sexually abused every year.

And do include under age abusers.

4228 group-based offences identified by the CSE Taskforce,

Assuming 'Group based' offences refer to Asian Grooming gangs. For the sake of argument let's assume a figure of 5,000 victims of Asian Grooming gangs, who were the other abusers of the 495,000 victims?
We don't hear much about them. I wonder why................

 

[motorbiking]

For me it's not helpful to include young people doing things that they cannot legally consent to, but want to do, so long as they aren't being groomed by adults. Two 14 or 15 year olds getting to 3rd or 4th base, isn't the same as adults abusing kids.

 

[King Billy]

For me it's not helpful to include young people doing things that they cannot legally consent to, but want to do,

If under-age children are doing what they want to do, they're not likely to report it as abuse.

 

[morqthana]

For me it's not helpful to include young people doing things that they cannot legally consent to, but want to do, so long as they aren't being groomed by adults. Two 14 or 15 year olds getting to 3rd or 4th base, isn't the same as adults abusing kids.

No, but it is, technically assault/abuse/rape because the law says that people that age cannot give consent. It also says that if they share "indecent" photos with each other that's an offence.

Then there's this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jul/31/childprotection.society

DISCLAIMER - I don't know if anything has changed wrt that, but I'm sure I read about a young person ending up on the register for consensual non-abusive, non-coercive, non-exploitative acts more recently than 25 years ago.

 

[morqthana]

If under-age children are doing what they want to do, they're not likely to report it as abuse.

Somebody else might.

 

[transam]

I'm not aware of the statistic, but could it include under age sexual activity?

Fair point

 

[motorbiking]

If under-age children are doing what they want to do, they're not likely to report it as abuse.

pregnancy is not easy to hide

 

[motorbiking]

No, but it is, technically assault/abuse/rape because the law says that people that age cannot give consent. It also says that if they share "indecent" photos with each other that's an offence.

Then there's this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jul/31/childprotection.society

DISCLAIMER - I don't know if anything has changed wrt that, but I'm sure I read about a young person ending up on the register for consensual non-abusive, non-coercive, non-exploitative acts more recently than 25 years ago.

I know of people who have "statutory" Rape convictions 17 yo gets a 15 yo pregnant. etc.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Assuming 'Group based' offences refer to Asian Grooming gangs. For the sake of argument let's assume a figure of 5,000 victims of Asian Grooming gangs, who were the other abusers of the 495,000 victims?
We don't hear much about them. I wonder why................

The law should treat everyone the same.

What these grooming gangs have done (and continue to do?) is abhorrent and they should feel the full force of the law.

However, there are some things happening across our nations that concern me. I went down a rabbit hole the other night of clips online of various anti immigration groups marching through their local towns/cities. One of these marches (in Glasgow) resulted in some arrests and there was real concern if any non white person happened to be in the locale they could have faced verbal and/or physical abuse. Good job I wasn't in Glasgow that day, had I happened across them goodness knows what might have happened to me.

There's also a trend online for fine upstanding members of the community to catch non white men that are hanging around parks etc talking to kids. They are then getting chased away, with a few slaps or punches to help them on their way. On the one hand, very laudable you might think. However, Yaxley Lennon put out an apology after an Asian guy was wrongly targeted. He'd been in a park with his family and the assumption was made, he's a wrong 'un.

I'm mixed race. I have white nieces. If I take them to the park, have I to accept and comply if a few knuckle-draggers approach me, most likely video me, and ask me to account for myself and what I'm doing? Is that what I've to accept?

OT yes, however connected to the whole debate around 'it's mainly the non whites committing these crimes' which seems to be the narrative and conclusion of an increasing % of our population.

 

[King Billy]

Somebody else might.

pregnancy is not easy to hide

Fair comments.

 

[King Billy]

The law should treat everyone the same.

Amen to that.

OT yes, however connected to the whole debate around 'it's mainly the non whites committing these crimes' which seems to be the narrative and conclusion of an increasing % of our population.

Increasingly we are told that it's mainly family members committing sex abuse of minors, and that asian and black people don't target their own.

Family abuse affects girls of all ethnicities. In the UK, data shows that White girls make up the largest number of recorded victims. However, girls from Mixed or Black ethnic backgrounds also experience high rates of abuse and may face extra barriers when getting help

The assumption must be that white people target their own families to sexually abuse them.

The sooner proper data is collected about offenders and victims, the sooner we can dismiss the urban myths about offenders.