Plug in solar

[ericmark]

It seems we are just circling around that cistern of yours

clearly not a tank

 

[denso13]

It seems we are just circling around that cistern of yours

Well the Latin root means box or chest, so I'm afraid you're wrong as well.

clearly not a tank

And that came much later than the original use of the word.

In fact using the original meanings shows that your use of the word electrician is wrong.

It does get quite silly...

 

[ericmark]

I did walk around the Cistern, there are walk ways within it, and it is interesting. I think I would have called it a reservoir, but it was called a Cistern many years ago, it is unlikely to be renamed now, maybe lake America if Tump is asked?

I hate this idea of changing names, it will always be Snowdon to me.

So we will have a Snowdon mountain railway, but no Snowdon for it to go up? It would be like calling a railway Tan-y-llyn when it never went there, or was it even planned it should go there.

 

[denso13]

I hate this idea of changing names

Then call it Snawdune, that's the original.

We are way off topic now.

 

[morqthana]

You are slipping the word sharing again, but I think I see where you are going wrong.

And I know where you going wrong, but whether deliberately or incompetently I don't know.

You are conflating ownership and exclusivity.

If you and your brother don't share a bedroom, and somebody were to ask you if you had your own room, and you said yes, how would you regard criticism of that on the grounds that neither of you had your own room because neither of you owned it?

"Do people working here have their own company car, or are vehicles pooled?" "They are not pooled, but nobody has their own because they don't own them, they're leased". Would that make sense to you?

Actually, you might claim it does, so desperate are you to deny any requirement for non-shared when talking about "own <whatever>".

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Erroneous conflation. Somebody can have their own kitchen in a block of flats without owning it.

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So you're relying on AI now? Good luck with that.

Yes, I've been saying that all along. The flat owns the CU, the house has a circuit fed from it.

And therefore the house does not have its own CU, it uses part of one shared between two separate dwellings.

 

[denso13]

If you and your brother don't share a bedroom, and somebody were to ask you if you had your own room, and you said yes, how would you regard criticism of that on the grounds that neither of you had your own room because neither of you owned it?

"Do people working here have their own company car, or are vehicles pooled?" "They are not pooled, but nobody has their own because they don't own them, they're leased". Would that make sense to you?

I've already said that shared things are of course shared.

I can keep repeating this if you like. The flat has it's own electrical supply and consumer unit. The house has neither. The CU is not shared like a bedroom or a car, which each user has access to for the purposes of using "it", like sleeping in it or driving it.

I could agree that the flat and house share circuits from the CU, if in fact each uses the same one(s). The CU in itself is not shared.

Say, bedroom 1 in the flat had an external window which let light in. Then say there was another window between this bedroom and one in the house. The house bedroom benefits from, shares/uses if you will, the sunlight coming into the flat bedroom window. But does it share the flat bedroom itself? No, it doesn't, that is still the flat owners own bedroom.

I'm sure I can think of a better analogy, that one came to mind first.

 

[morqthana]

I've already said that shared things are of course shared.

To have your "own <whatever>" requires it to not be shared.

I can keep repeating this if you like.

You'll just keep repeating the same false ideas.

The flat has it's own electrical supply and consumer unit. The house has neither. The CU is not shared like a bedroom or a car, which each user has access to for the purposes of using "it", like sleeping in it or driving it.

I could agree that the flat and house share circuits from the CU, if in fact each uses the same one(s). The CU in itself is not shared.

Of course it is. Don't be ridiculous.

Say, bedroom 1 in the flat had an external window which let light in. Then say there was another window between this bedroom and one in the house. The house bedroom benefits from, shares/uses if you will, the sunlight coming into the flat bedroom window. But does it share the flat bedroom itself? No, it doesn't, that is still the flat owners own bedroom.

I'm sure I can think of a better analogy, that one came to mind first.

It's a ridiculous one.

 

[denso13]

To have your "own <whatever>" requires it to not be shared.

Correct, the circuits may be shared, the consumer unit itself most definitely isn't.

 

[ericmark]

The flat I assume was originally a garage, well I have seen pictures of a train which went through the flat, and can see where the hole it went through has been filled in, and around the area found bits of railway line.

It was converted into a flat, since bedroom, bathroom, kitchen and living room, it must have been a very big garage. The steep drive resulted in it being dangerous to enter or leave in icy conditions, so I have made a patio in front of the doors, with steps from the drive to patio.

But the garden, electric, water, and heating all shared, so it would be impossible to rent it out as a self-contained flat. It is what we would call a granny flat, i.e. only friends and family could really use it.

Today little more than a store room. But as far as the law with plug in solar goes, the question is could I fit two, one assigned to flat and one assigned to main house?

In real terms it will never happen, not convinced even one plug in solar would be worthwhile, solar without batteries is a bit useless, and even if solar which took advantage of the morning sun may be an advantage if we did not have an off-peak supply, with the off-peak it is sun set to start of off-peak which is the problem. So if anything an extra battery is called for.

Due to how my house is in a valley, so the hill opposite masks early morning sun, having a large solar array pointing south-east does not help, but if the tariffs were to change, then in the future it may help.

So plug-in in winter may help, and in summer could be moved to daughters house. So each year it would need as it stands cancelling one and opening another G98, this would be silly. Every year cancelling and re-applying simple does not make sense. Plug-in by its very nature is temperary.

 

[denso13]

So each year it would need as it stands cancelling one and opening another G98

I think you'd only need to apply for one at each address and let them run, nothing else.

 

[morqthana]

Correct, the circuits may be shared, the consumer unit itself most definitely isn't.

No, of course not.

If some circuits serve rooms in one dwelling, and some serve rooms in another, that's definitely not sharing the CU between two dwellings. Who on earth would think it was?

 

[morqthana]

But as far as the law with plug in solar goes, the question is could I fit two, one assigned to flat and one assigned to main house?

Have we seen anything regarding the law?

But according to that spec you do not have any compliant households.