Expired MOT.

[joe-90]

so you dont KNOW then...

What's your problem? I told you that his exhaust was noisy and when I asked him what he was going to do about it he said he hadn't got the time to sort it and that it was out of MOT as well.

no problem - just unlike you I don`t believe everything people tell me, strikes me you`d report him on hearsay thats all

Report him? For what and to whom? He's a mate for Heaven's sake.

 

[megawatt]

The dibble can find out immediately if the vehicle is taxed, MOT'd or insured ... They won't know if the driver is insured though until they find out who they are

Another sanity check ... If he gets pulled for any other reason (speeding etc) he will get done for the lot.

If he gets flashed by a static camera or one of the SCP vans they now check the vehicles status and notify the police so he'll get done for the lot.

Do you feel lucky punk is the question really

MW

 

[ellal]

I have heard of something along those lines, but not too sure what actual equipment they have in thier vehicles.

It's probably a case of being 'flagged' by the ANPR system, and the patrol car being alerted.

 

[Steve]

I have heard of something along those lines, but not too sure what actual equipment they have in thier vehicles.

Cant believe you never heard of ANPR.

Automatic NumberPlate Recognition.

Many traffic police cars are now fitted with a high-resolution camera at the front, which scans every single number plate it can capture and read. The computers on these cars feed the number plates into a central computer via satellite or some GSM device, and it checks for insurance, license, reported stolen, outstanding warrants on the keeper, MOT, tax. Anythings possible really.

Of course, for this reason, many more cars get pulled over now for having illegible number plates. ANPR cannot recognise plates in funked up fonts and different sized letters, and a black screw placed conveniently to make a different letter. Its now no longer acceptable to have a piece of cardboard with black biro writing on it, as a number plate on a trailer etc. I saw a lorry like this yesterday. Couldnt believe my eyes. I couldnt even read it from 5 metres away, what chance has an ANPR got?

There are also cameras permenantly by the road side known as SPECS which scan number plates at 2 locations, time you between them, and work out your speed. Clever stuff. I always laugh at people who speed between these, then slow down for the cameras.

 

[Bilioustrumpstaine]

Our vehicle was due for its first MOT and we forgot to get it done , we rang our insurance company and asked our legal position with regards to insurance if we had no MOT, they told us it didn't make any difference to our policy if the car had a ticket or not. We carried on using the car but got it MOT'd as quick as possible to keep it street legal.

Round our way they (Plod) set up a van with many cameras to read number plates to check for insurance, MOT, tax, outstanding warrants etc etc They use a fleet of marked and unmarked motorcycles to stop/tail any suspect vehicles.

Big brother is watching you.

 

[stuartinlancashire]

You can check if YOUR vehicle is on the motor insurance database here

 

[securespark]

traffic police cars are now fitted with a high-resolution camera

Judging by all the misread plates, I think it must be a VGA camera!!

 

[Softus]

If he has a crash, and his insurance co. find out, they will void his policy.

That's an urban myth. A car without an MOT certificate can be perfectly roadworthy, and a car with a certificate can be a death trap.

If the cops find out, they will probably prosecute for not MOT & insurance.

Not having an MOT certificate is an offence, but you can't be prosecuted for no insurance if you produce a valid and current insurance certificate.

 

[ninebob]

no problem - just unlike you I don`t believe everything people tell me, strikes me you`d report him on hearsay thats all

Report him? For what and to whom? He's a mate for Heaven's sake.

Ah. So, in another thread, you vehemently oppose exceeding the speed limit on a clear motorway, but here you are saying you wouldn't report somebody for having a vehicle which is potentially unroadworthy and therefore lethal - because "he's a mate". Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.

 

[joe-90]

no problem - just unlike you I don`t believe everything people tell me, strikes me you`d report him on hearsay thats all

Report him? For what and to whom? He's a mate for Heaven's sake.

Ah. So, in another thread, you vehemently oppose exceeding the speed limit on a clear motorway, but here you are saying you wouldn't report somebody for having a vehicle which is potentially unroadworthy and therefore lethal - because "he's a mate". Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Where is the hypocrisy? I'm not some kind of nature's policeman for heaven's sake. If you drive past me over the speed limit do you expect me to take your number and report you? If I see you illegally park do I go over to your car and say 'I'm reporting you for illegal parking'? I think you need to get real, Sunshine.

Go out and get yourself a nice fag and chill out.

 

[bernardgreen]

Not having an MOT certificate is an offence, but you can't be prosecuted for no insurance if you produce a valid and current insurance certificate.

I can recall car user who had no MOT but did have what he thought was a valid and current insurance certificate. But small print in the insurance policy, and refered to in the certificate, required the vehicle to have a current MOT cetificate for the insurance to be valid.

 

[Softus]

I can recall car user who had no MOT but did have what he thought was a valid and current insurance certificate. But small print in the insurance policy, and refered to in the certificate, required the vehicle to have a current MOT cetificate for the insurance to be valid.

If that is true and accurate then I believe it to be an exception.

It certainly isn't universally true, and since you used the non-specific words "a car user" I'm doubtful about it being true at all, because it's a rather pointless clause.

As far as I'm aware, most, if not all, policies stipulate that the insured vehicle must be kept roadworthy, which is far more important than having a bit of paper, which is why not being to produce that bit of paper is punishable only by a relatively small fine - the law recognises how insignificant it really is.

 

[bernardgreen]

Softus

It is true. I used the term car user because never in this world could he ever be described as a driver. He can operate the controls and make the car do what he wants it to do. But the skills of driving elude him.

The term "road worthy" may be seen by some underwriters to include the vehicle must also be road legal. Lack of a valid MoT means vehicle is not road legal.

 

[Softus]

It is true.

I don't doubt that you think it's true, but the more important point is that it isn't universally true. This topic isn't just about one-bloke-that-you-know-but-whom-you're-not-prepared-to-name.

The term "road worthy" may be seen by some underwriters to include the vehicle must also be road legal.

They can see it as what they like, but they'd probably be wrong and, in many cases, in breach of contract to do so.

I chose to use the word "roadworthy" because it has a specific meaning in the context of the Road Traffic Act and the construction and use regulations, so there isn't scope for you to twist its definition into the nebulous alternative of "road legal", which could mean different things to different people.

Lack of a valid MoT means vehicle is not road legal.

I disagree. A missing but valid certificate is an offence, but doesn't render the vehicle unroadworthy. A bald tyre does, as one example, even if you have a bit of paper that says it passed an MOT test on the same day.

 

[Nige F]

no problem - just unlike you I don`t believe everything people tell me, strikes me you`d report him on hearsay thats all

Report him? For what and to whom? He's a mate for Heaven's sake.

Ah. So, in another thread, you vehemently oppose exceeding the speed limit on a clear motorway, but here you are saying you wouldn't report somebody for having a vehicle which is potentially unroadworthy and therefore lethal - because "he's a mate". Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.

? I'm not some kind of nature's policeman
Go out and get yourself a nice fag and chill out.

homophobic too Naturist Policeman with a funny helmet