Tiling 2 sides of my Bath ready for electric shower install

[shakermaker]

Hi All

My standard shaped bath is in the corner of the bathroom & has two rows of tiles down one length & one width.

I am wanting to do full wall tiling on these 2 walls in advance of getting an electric shower installed. Guess the area must be MAX 6Sqm i.e., length of bath say 2M, width 1M & height from top of bath to ceiling 2M max.

the area I want to tile over is currently painted with emulsion.

Could anyone tell me how long it should take a professional to prep the walls & then tile it, lets say with the smaller 5X5 inch wall tiles ?.

I would be interested to know as some of the times people are suggesting appear a little on the lengthy side.

Cheers

 

[wap]

would be done in 2 days max. shouldnt take too long to get emulsion off and old tiles and patch up. then tile away

 

[shakermaker]

Hi

I was thinking of just carrying on the tiling above the 2 rows that are already there so no need to remove the old tiles & patch it up.

Someone had said it would take a whole day to prep the wall but I,m struggling to understand whats involved here, i.e., will they just sand the emulsion off or use a wallpaper steamer, even I (a penpusher) could do it in a couple of hours-I think !

Cheers

 

[jefoss]

if they quote 3 days or even 4 gives extra time for probs and delays, just because 1 can SAY he can do it in 2 days thats fine, but in reality nothing goes smoothly and if something comes up the time is there to sort out probs and if he finishes earlier than the time alloted you wiill be even happier and reccommend him.

 

[shakermaker]

Hi

Thanks for the comments.

I'm astonished that a professional would take as long as 3 days never mind 4, on that basis to completely tile the bathroom would take 9 or 12 days.

I was thinking it would take 1 day tops, the walls are plasterboard with only a layer of paint on top, couldn't they just rough up the wall so the adhesive sticks for a couple of hours & then slap em on.

Isn' it the same as a good brickie would can do hundreds of bricks in a day ?.

ta for the input

 

[jefoss]

Hi

Thanks for the comments.

I'm astonished that a professional would take as long as 3 days never mind 4, on that basis to completely tile the bathroom would take 9 or 12 days.

I was thinking it would take 1 day tops, the walls are plasterboard with only a layer of paint on top, couldn't they just rough up the wall so the adhesive sticks for a couple of hours & then slap em on.

Isn' it the same as a good brickie would can do hundreds of bricks in a day ?.

ta for the input

without actually looking at a job shaker its never fully possible to say how long the job will take, for instance i personally get calls all the time saying come and do my bathroom floor its 5 sqm so i say ill come out for a qoute, and the reply is always the same, cant you just quote me over the phone? ive measured it, but what customers dont think about is ok it may be 5 ms but is it a straight forward job? level floor? easy access, lots of other factors too. but your estimate of 9 - 10 days is spot on, ill do the job mate at 180 a day for 10 days

 

[lancenotalot]

the walls are plasterboard with only a layer of paint on top, couldn't they just rough up the wall so the adhesive sticks for a couple of hours & then slap em on.

It would depend on the adhesion of the paint to the walls,try scraping over it with a paper scraper,.if the paint starts flaking then its no good to tile onto.

This job should be done in about 2 days as previously mentioned,wall surface prep and tiling on day 1 and possibly finish off any tiling and grout up day 2,5 inch sq tiles means there are 64 tiles to put up per sq meter thats a total of 384 tiles.

Why not give it a go yourself,theres plenty of good advice on this site and people who are more than willing to try and solve any problems you may encounter

 

[tiler jase]

Shakermaker

Please discard the useless advice you have recieved so far. Firstly apply a piece of sellotape to the paint and leave for 15 minutes.When removing it if paint comes away with sellotape you will have to sand the lot off until its virtually gone. You will then need to "score" the walls in a criss cross fashion with a sharp stanley knife or similar giving you a sound keyed surface. Secondly if you want a problem free shower for years and years invest in a waterproof tanking system which is applied to the walls prior to tiling which is in short a painted on rubberised/latex membrane with suitable primer included (NOT PVA!). Any topps tiles will sell you one and explain why we (tilers)use them. It even comes with fool proof installation guidelines.
One day preparation / cure time.
One days tiling and cure time.
Half day grouting and siliconing.

Do it any other way and prepare to repeat the whole process again and again and again.....

 

[lancenotalot]

I was thinking of just carrying on the tiling above the 2 rows that are already there so no need to remove the old tiles & patch it up.

tiler jase,did you read the whole post?What would be the point of tanking above the existing two rows?Chances are they will not have been tanked behind,the whole lot would need removing and surface made good before tanking .

Please discard the useless advice you have recieved so far.

Maybe you could elaborate on the usless bits?

I am wanting to do full wall tiling on these 2 walls in advance of getting an electric shower installed.

You wolud have to move a few of the tiles in order for the pipework to feed the shower generally runnning from the main in the bathroom via a channel in the wall.

 

[gcol]

Tiler jase, are you sure you're not really mountford? //www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=708905#708905 I only ask because he used to bang on about scoring the wall too.

 

[roughcaster]

What this is begining to look like is someone who thinks he knows it all, and anything other people suggest is "useless advice". We've had people like this on here before and they have lasted five minutes.This is not a Forum about me me me.

Roughcaster.

 

[tiler jase]

gcol

Why do you say im somebody you know full well im not. You know my ip address and email, but it suits you to try and make yourself look clever. People have asked for advice and ive given them the correct advice where as you have not. Mountford made some good points and appears to be talking sense but you gave bad advice there again.
Your points are outdated and old news. Even your guide to setting out a room is outdated. I can give you that name and number if you like....

 

[gcol]

Save your tippy typing little fingers. I know the script now. I just hope you leave before you annoy too many people.

 

[shakermaker]

Thanks for all the comments guys, I've been away a few days so have missed the action.

I would have a go myself but it's in a different location, I may go for larger tiles which I presume will speed things up no end.

I was figuring that because there were only cuts to do in one corner then this was an easy job, the tiler could stop at a suitable point vertically to avoid cuts as well.

Couldn't you just use a sharp chisel or something to score lines into the wall to avoid it it taking a whole day.

Cheers All